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Suggestion:Mod election system

deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago

We all know mods are been suggesting by the other mods etc

So what about a new system to elect new moderators A new section in the forums where all moderator applications will be posted and on those applications Epicmafia can vote on so its more fair choosing the mod for epicmafia by the players of epicmafia

So its -1 votes or +1 votes with a reason why you downvote or upvote This will highly stop mods suggesting only friends

A mod should be choosed by the players of epicmafia and not the mods themselves

Current template i thought up

Main account:(Whats your main account)

Alternate accounts:(Your alternate accounts)

Why would you be a good mod(explanition why you be a good mod)

What would you do if three poeple gets into a fight with eachother(explaining how you would handle it)

Do you have any prior experience being a mod?

Did you contribute something to the community

Your timezone:

Langauges you speak(sometimes there are games with other langauges but very uncommonly)

Age:(how old are you in real life)

HEY LOOK A TEMPLATE^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Poll
Democracy
Democracy67%57
Lets the mods choose by themselves32%27
84 votes
deleteddeletedabout 11 years agoedited
it's not a big deal one way or the other. mods will get chosen, people are going to complain, the earth is also not flat and we circle the sun rather than the other way around
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deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
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Braixen
Then f the minority that still complain. The majority wants a better moderator system, so why not get one. The majority basically, through a voting system, will become satisfied, meaning less complaining (although the trolls and the other minority will still go at it, but that's what it is everywhere). There should also be an overthrow option, where the community should also vote to decide if a moderator is still viable for staying moderator. And a point minimum to vote, so that people can't make alts to vote or make trash accounts to vote.
Just putting this here so people don't have to flip pages just to piece it together.
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
belovedprincess
i'm pretty sure it isn't, riot. the sort of voting system i'm talking about would be literally impossible to pull off in the real world....like, with big numbers
It's essentially inbuilt runoffs.

But I agree that dictatorships are better in the real world.
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perekingabout 11 years ago
admin
unsurprisingly, the objections are coming from existing mods/vets
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deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Braixen
Telling by the uproar of the community saying "The moderators are corrupt" and the intense amount of appeals and unlawful vios, it seems that the community would be better off selecting moderators through an organized election because the community knows what they want/expect. I, myself, expect a fair moderator that actually takes the reportee and reporter into consideration rather than just the anger or the reporter, or just the sadness of the reportee, or has a bias from any type of friendship. Basically speaking, moderators need to know the game, know the feeling of losing/winning, know what cheaters do/look like, and also are able to have no bias with people they like/dislike. What it seems like from the uproar of the community is that the moderators seem to buddy with buddies, and harshly punish those they dislike. I do see comments on the lobby wall about a moderator's "corruption" or a report that they feel was unfair at least once a day. When to be honest, it shouldn't even be on the lobby wall because moderators should be fair to begin with. It's one thing to have troll reports or grudge reports, but to have legitimate reports also be judged wrongly or harshly is just terrible. Because the community knows what this feels like/knows what's wrong or right, a democratic set up for electing moderators should be appropriate. Also, to further explain, some current mods, for example, may be corrupt. To have those mods be the ones to choose the next mods is kind of bad for the community and epicmafia itself.

(edit) For the record, I don't know what these voting algorithms have to do with anything .-.
(continuing)
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Current template i thought up

Main account:(Whats your main account)

Alternate accounts:(Your alternate accounts)

Why would you be a good mod(explanition why you be a good mod)

What would you do if three poeple gets into a fight with eachother(explaining how you would handle it)

Do you have any prior experience being a mod?

Did you contribute something to the community

Your timezone:

Langauges you speak(sometimes there are games with other langauges but very uncommonly)

Age:(how old are you in real life)

HEY LOOK A TEMPLATE^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Hey guys, remember how every president & world leader that was elected by popular vote always enjoyed a high approval rate? no? neither do I.
Theabout 11 years agoedited
belovedprincess
Croned
belovedprincess
it's the same thing bro. if it's people getting enough votes, getting elected or not elected, then votes being transferred automatically to secondary candidates, it's still blind. there has to be personal input the whole way along or it's broken. that's what it is, right?
No, you choose who you want your votes to be transferred to by who you select as your second choice.
still broken, because those choices aren't relative to actual voting. it still ends up random. u need ur vote to be relative to other votes. u need to see the voting and try to steer it, basically
So can you explain why the STV system is not superior to all of the other feasible systems mentioned and the current system?
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
ftr, i don't even care lol. i'm just bored and playing with logic
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Yeah a complaint tread good idea
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Thinking about it a voting system might not be too bad.


vote: kill all mods
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Braixen
mist
Braixen
words words words words
a voting system is going to fix literally none of that. people will always find reasons to complain about moderators. always.
Then f the minority that still complain. The majority wants a better moderator system, so why not get one. The majority basically, through a voting system, will become satisfied.
You're wrong.
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deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
mist
Braixen
words words words words
a voting system is going to fix literally none of that. people will always find reasons to complain about moderators. always.
Then f the minority that still complain. The majority wants a better moderator system, so why not get one. The majority basically, through a voting system, will become satisfied, meaning less complaining (although the trolls and the other minority will still go at it, but that's what it is everywhere). There should also be an overthrow option, where the community should also vote to decide if a moderator is still viable for staying moderator. And a point minimum to vote, so that people can't make alts to vote or make trash accounts to vote.
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
by all means implement your voting system and then become disillusioned when your elected moderator gets complaints threads and such like every other moderator. you may choose a good moderator, hell you may even choose a great one, but the fact of the matter is that any mod who is doing their job is going to infuriate a lot of people along the way because that's just how moderating an internet site full of entitled young adults works.
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Katieabout 11 years ago
this isn't going to solve the community's disliking of the mods whatsoever, if anything it's going to make it worse because if it's a large poll chances are the majority of people who vote will dislike whoever is picked if it isn't who they voted for

poll systems suck. just look at our conservative government
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deleteddeletedabout 11 years agoedited
i'm pretty sure it isn't, riot. the sort of voting system i'm talking about would be literally impossible to pull off in the real world....like, with big numbers
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Satan
WolfODonnellz
Leaving this here
they use the wrong you're
I think you mean u'r
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Croned
belovedprincess
it's the same thing bro. if it's people getting enough votes, getting elected or not elected, then votes being transferred automatically to secondary candidates, it's still blind. there has to be personal input the whole way along or it's broken. that's what it is, right?
No, you choose who you want your votes to be transferred to by who you select as your second choice.
still broken, because those choices aren't relative to actual voting. it still ends up random. u need ur vote to be relative to other votes. u need to see the voting and try to steer it, basically
Satanabout 11 years ago
WolfODonnellz
Leaving this here
they use the wrong you're
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Sirius: STV is the exact solution to what you're talking about.
Theabout 11 years ago
belovedprincess
it's the same thing bro. if it's people getting enough votes, getting elected or not elected, then votes being transferred automatically to secondary candidates, it's still blind. there has to be personal input the whole way along or it's broken. that's what it is, right?
No, you choose who you want your votes to be transferred to by who you select as your second choice.
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Leaving this here
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
..fair enough. But it's been idiotic for a good 6 years now. Granted people are far whinier about mods and their decisions now than they've been before but I still don't see how turning it into an automated community-based voting system is going to bring out the MLG mods from the shadows.
Satanabout 11 years ago
Togepi
I think it was supposed to be expect*
i guess it could work either way but expect seems more legit so ur right
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Braixen
words words words words
a voting system is going to fix literally none of that. people will always find reasons to complain about moderators. always.
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