Moderating

deleteddeletedover 10 years ago

I want to hear feedback from the EM community and I'd like to know what you'd like to see happening in the moderation team. This is a thread that everyone is welcome to express their likes/dislikes about the team, what needs to be improved, what should stay the same, what should be HC/ what shouldn't.. just a few examples.

I'm asking for constructive criticism, please don't be rude. This is the first step into making the moderation team better and it would really help getting the communities insight on thing.

-What should be HC? What shouldn't?

-Should HC consequences change?

-What changes would make the mod team better?

-Do you guys believe people are reporting out of spite instead of actually being offended?

Edarkover 10 years ago
Edark
I think that the moderation would be better if you stepped down
Im going to take this statement back and throw it towards mods whom deserve it
Hibikiover 10 years ago
rutab
Hibiki
rutab
Hibiki
why do you feel this is necessary?
Well, it reinforces the idea that the mods are working with the community instead of for. It not only gives a place for discussion, but it also serves as a way for players to read more closely about what was changed.
1. How? 2. Again, why is that necessary?
1.) If you put the moderators and the players in the same mindset, whether you/they agree or not, it allows everyone to at least understand where you're coming from.

2.) I thought I answered this before, but maybe I wasn't clear. It is necessary because the only thing it could do is benefit the players and the moderators. I don't see the downside to this. Can you, and if so, please explain?
1. sure, but this only applies to "why we think the rule should be handled this way" not "what this means for you as a player"

2. the reason i challenge this suggestion is because i believe that a rule should be well-written enough so that the explanation shouldn't be needed for the rule to be followed correctly. if it's hard to follow the rule because you don't understand it, then the rule needs to be written better.

this clearly doesn't apply when discussing the justification of how the rule is handled
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
kitsune
Togepi
You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.
that fact that tatami disagrees with you means you're on the right path btw
Basing an argument off the quality of the user and in fact if you're basing your argument on the actual argument and deeming one as right or correct you are ignorant. The argument is surrounded by the actual action.
starfuelover 10 years ago
the N was silly but this deserved a vio lmao:
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vildenover 10 years ago
i know what it's like to be a mod and want to find ways to vio people you don't like or to get rid of someone being a nuisance. it's just the way it is and most mods are like that
Becameclearover 10 years agoedited
@mods
Dont burn yourselves out, stay chill

"Do you guys believe people are reporting out of spite instead of actually being offended?"

Yeah, people report for HC just to give people vios. 100%
deleteddeletedover 10 years agoedited
Togepi
You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe"that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.
Devanteover 10 years ago
Togepi
You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.
nah he deserved a vio for that, and i woulda given him one.

the 2 people who didn't get vios should've gotten a vio though
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Edarkover 10 years agoedited
Togepi
You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.
Preach it
xSoniaNeverMindxover 10 years ago
-Do you guys believe people are reporting out of spite instead of actually being offended? HAHAHAHA G-GETTING OFFENDED ON THE INTERNET HAHAHAHA

*Ahem* Yes.
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
Togepi
You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.
that fact that tatami disagrees with you means you're on the right path btw
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
Mods are self-indulging narcissists with ivory tower syndrome. They can break any rule and it won't matter. The system is broken therefore I must act broken accordingly
Togepiover 10 years ago
You should educate your fellow moderators about actual racial slurs and not overmoderate HC by giving someone a HC violation for typing the word 'N' in a comment on the forums because you "believe" that they have the intent to type a racial slur. That is freaking ridiculous.
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deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
it's actually been painfully terrible lately
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
If you care about this website a whole lot you would at least abide to the terms whenever they are changed. Modsrthefkers though
Hibikiover 10 years ago
SimplyPam
Hibiki
I understand what he's saying. I'm asking why it's needed.
For clarity.. so we don't get the excuse of "I didn't see it" or "I didn't know"
that problem will exist regardless of how the rule change is presented. if they miss an announcement informing you of the rule change, they miss the announcement linking the thread that explains why we changed it.
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
Ignorance of the rules only leads to yourself to blame. If you're notified that they have changed, you have yourself to blame.
starfuelover 10 years ago
i think you guys are doing an A-ok job
trolleyzover 10 years ago
its not necessary at all hibiki but it helps educate the playerbase and can even serve to acknowledge them as well in some cases

for example, rutabs case where if it was brought up WHY the rule was changed, probably some people would be impressed the way it was changed to actually help lessen the severity of a rule a lot of people see as too heavily moderated (HC) because of a report moderated on female

instead, you had skillz make a topic complaining about the change in ruling because (and imo hes right) the wording you used makes it sound like the moderator gets free reign in no vioing his friends if he wants to

"Any other hateful derogatory language and content intended to offend will be left to the moderator's discretion."


btw, i don't think its necessary but there's some pros to it to help outweigh the cons
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xSoniaNeverMindxover 10 years ago
SimplyPam
Hibiki
I understand what he's saying. I'm asking why it's needed.
For clarity.. so we don't get the excuse of "I didn't see it" or "I didn't know"
THIS IS HOW I GOT MY FIRST VIO THANK YOU
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
lucid is my vater. I hold more authority than a regular moderator
vildenover 10 years ago
everytime hibiki posts, someone somewhere says the n word
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
Hibiki
I understand what he's saying. I'm asking why it's needed.
For clarity.. so we don't get the excuse of "I didn't see it" or "I didn't know"
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
Hibiki
rutab
Hibiki
why do you feel this is necessary?
Well, it reinforces the idea that the mods are working with the community instead of for. It not only gives a place for discussion, but it also serves as a way for players to read more closely about what was changed.
1. How? 2. Again, why is that necessary?
1.) If you put the moderators and the players in the same mindset, whether you/they agree or not, it allows everyone to at least understand where you're coming from.

2.) I thought I answered this before, but maybe I wasn't clear. It is necessary because the only thing it could do is benefit the players and the moderators. I don't see the downside to this. Can you, and if so, please explain?
Hibikiover 10 years ago
I understand what he's saying. I'm asking why it's needed.
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