Is this a policy? No matter how one trolls or ruins the game, moderators never refund it? Its this some god damn conspiracy or something? Why when someone trolls, gets a gt vio, and is suspended there is no Refund? Why no one ever gives refunds, if someone in the game gets a vio??????????
I mean literally, You are giving points to a winning side, that won only because of the troll/gt user :/ And you encorage such gameplay.
Why not for instance... Remove the player with violation Off the Round, and refund the game!
P.S. If someone gets a Violation through a round, i think its just fair, he to be removed from the round. I don't like players that get a GT vio for 24 hours come back after those 24 hours just to throw again.
BUMB. Cos its happening again 20 days later, and nothing changed.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
i remember when i played (read: didn't run) all round and didn't even think about refunds when reporting people. then i realised i was a step away from a trophy and reported a legitimately ruined game to get a refund and i was shot down on the basis that the game was like a week old and got called every synonym for "scrounger" under the sun and caused the mods to enact a statute of limitations on reports.
When rigid formula are used regardless of if they are meant as context or not they are used too heavily as if they were rules and it causes way too many problems.
When new mods or current mods start thinking "Ok, generally speaking, only refund if X happens" they will hardly even start considering other cases
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
if there isn't a rule being violated in the game, then you do not refund the game.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
But does that count things like notes? I am not ever saying refund for bad play, but what about being lenient toward newer players that do not receive a violation?
No, it really doesn't. Refunding for bad play is awful.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
no
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
i disagree, personally.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
"No vio - no refund" needs to be changed as well IMO. It is probably the worst thing that is stated in that thread
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
I don't see why everyone else should be punished on account of "report scrounging".
The people that GT or otherwise negatively impact the game certainly won't stop doing so just because games aren't being refunded.
The only people that benefit from this are the people that are causing the harm in the first place, and if refunding games creates too many reports then you should assign more moderators to deal with them.
These are the current (loose) guidelines we use for refunding games. Just something for you guys to reference when you're suggesting how we can improve the system.
Edit: thanks xxerox!
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
I hope I don't ever hear a mod say that, that's just bad modding.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
What is rutab on about
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
I brought it up because I want the community to know our exact thoughts and ideas as we go along so we can get the most constructive feedback possible. Honestly, I see nothing wrong with it.
Each scenario will not be looked at with some set-in-stone standards that never change; we will decide contextually if said scenario deserves a refund.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Thus speaketh one of the worst scroungers there was, Connor~.
The current policy worked fine. I won two rounds ago without a single refund. I could possibly have got one but I didn't, but it didn't matter because nobody else did.
Well, except ape. And look how that turned out.
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deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
i remember how i started the word "scrounging". i started it. then billstickers accused me of it. full circle.
