Is this a policy? No matter how one trolls or ruins the game, moderators never refund it? Its this some god damn conspiracy or something? Why when someone trolls, gets a gt vio, and is suspended there is no Refund? Why no one ever gives refunds, if someone in the game gets a vio??????????
I mean literally, You are giving points to a winning side, that won only because of the troll/gt user :/ And you encorage such gameplay.
Why not for instance... Remove the player with violation Off the Round, and refund the game!
P.S. If someone gets a Violation through a round, i think its just fair, he to be removed from the round. I don't like players that get a GT vio for 24 hours come back after those 24 hours just to throw again.
BUMB. Cos its happening again 20 days later, and nothing changed.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
frankly, i think games should be refunded contextually, like if someone GT'd on their GT alt, i.e. nevermaf throwing against me on his GT alt in 232. but c'est la vie.
This one is golden : Mafia loses the game, after they are lynched, after one of their members pretty much GT the entire game, but the game is not refunded because : Moderators think town would have won anyway.
that was completely me, actually. lucid wanted it to be trolling & i made the thread for it
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
that is gamethrow
deleteddeletedover 11 years agoedited
That is still a game throw, as Venus said. IMO that should be refunded because it negatively impacted the game. It may have been *better* for town, but had he not hip fired, the game would have progressed differently.
Edit: I keep forgetting that hip firing is trolling now and not game throwing.
deleteddeletedover 11 years agoedited
me and goodbar strongarmed a change to the precedent that hipfiring can fall under Trolling/GT and is to be refunded if the user showed intent by either grudge or disregard someone's role completely
IMO, it should be "was the game (not team) impacted large enough to change the outcome of what originally was set". Now, you could go on saying that "oh well you never know how the game would be played out", but in all honesty the probability of something drastically changing in the middle of a game is pretty low, especially with some of the setups that get comped.
Lets say, Sheriff Hipfires D1, and shoots hooker. Town wins easily after that. People report the one who hipfire, but his excuse is that he shot mafia so he did not gt. At the end there is no refund, because He was going to shoot the same user the next day no matter what.
Basically the question that mods are currently asking when they refund games is "was the affected team on the better position when the game was affected" when they should be asking "did the rule breaker put the team in a worse position" because it is not for them to judge whether town would have been able to scumhunt correctly or not.
That's my two cents. Basically this
deleteddeletedover 11 years agoedited
In all seriousness, a discussion has been set up. For now, please be patient as we discuss.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
*spreads tentacles lovingly over xxerox's face*
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deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
and yes I was obviously suggesting that some people here are not human. ~_~
when i was a moderator i used a military training regimen that allowed me to work while only needing 4 hours of sleep a night. the rest of my time was devoted to improving epicmafia
