Is this a policy? No matter how one trolls or ruins the game, moderators never refund it? Its this some god damn conspiracy or something? Why when someone trolls, gets a gt vio, and is suspended there is no Refund? Why no one ever gives refunds, if someone in the game gets a vio??????????
I mean literally, You are giving points to a winning side, that won only because of the troll/gt user :/ And you encorage such gameplay.
Why not for instance... Remove the player with violation Off the Round, and refund the game!
P.S. If someone gets a Violation through a round, i think its just fair, he to be removed from the round. I don't like players that get a GT vio for 24 hours come back after those 24 hours just to throw again.
http://epicmafia.com/game/3592219 was another one refunded last round after the cop hipfired the hooker. Sure, they refund if a hipfire gets the important member of mafia, but if they hit cop or BS they don't refund.
as far as this topic goes, I think being too conservative is better than being too lenient, since lenience leads to more inconsistencies and allows more room for people to cajole their mod buddies to refund for them.
what rutab and others mentioned goes back to the daunting task of codifying the rules which would do wonders if anyone could be bothered to put time into doing so. It'd make everything more objective and clearly outlining what makes something refundable vs. not refundable, or the conditions that need to be met for a refund, would be better for both the mods and players.
shouldve stopped his sentence at motivation to play.
also will someone play a game with me
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
This is incorrect, and I don't understand how this is the popular opinion. Trolls can be impossible to read because they don't play the game as intended, they say nothing relevant to the game and just says random stuff or chuck insults all game. If you don't lynch them because they are a just at roll, they would be called obvious mafia and it would be your fault. If you lynch them because they troll too much, it would still be your fault and you would be told to read better. This is unsatisfying. I'll ask the admin to look over this rule.
There's plenty of motivation when the alternative is losing.
Furthermore no one should be playing with the assumption that someone will get a violation that will put the game in the refund/loss scenario because the mod's judgement is what counts there.
Where there isn't motivation is exactly in the alternative you mention. No matter what the game will be refunded, so why will anyone give any effort to win. And then come the problems when it actually isn't refunded
