Never Refund?

xxeroxover 11 years ago

Is this a policy? No matter how one trolls or ruins the game, moderators never refund it? Its this some god damn conspiracy or something? Why when someone trolls, gets a gt vio, and is suspended there is no Refund? Why no one ever gives refunds, if someone in the game gets a vio??????????

I mean literally, You are giving points to a winning side, that won only because of the troll/gt user :/ And you encorage such gameplay.

Why not for instance... Remove the player with violation Off the Round, and refund the game!

P.S. If someone gets a Violation through a round, i think its just fair, he to be removed from the round. I don't like players that get a GT vio for 24 hours come back after those 24 hours just to throw again.

The current bad guidelines that need to be improved : https://epicmafia.com/topic/61726

BUMB. Cos its happening again 20 days later, and nothing changed.

deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
How often do you read the terms and conditions of things
lingover 11 years ago
I miss 2012 mafia that was the best time
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
i for one know the itunes TOS like the back of my hand.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Venus
People still don't follow the rules despite saying they read them

For example tigerawr posted in the mod rules thread saying he read them. Then processed to refund his own games.
It would still be good insurance for mod verdicts if there was a page that said "click 'I Agree' [with these rules] to continue signing up" or something.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Steven
Why would you punish town for winning even with a handicap?
are you saying that putting mafia in a "lose or refund" scenario is ok?
TheShaneover 11 years ago
Nonon
TheShane
Make them accept the epicmafia rules once they sign up?
yeah, because that will make people read them lol
Sure they do! You always read before you accept the terms and conditions.... right?
AdrenalineMimeover 11 years ago
it's not so much teaching the rules as WHY the rules exist in the first place. like sure, trolls will still be trolls, but there are tons of people who just want to play mafia but do something wrong to end up getting a violation, and then think the mods are cods
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Nonon
TheShane
Make them accept the epicmafia rules once they sign up?
yeah, because that will make people read them lol
True, but then we can use the "Oh, well you accepted that you knew the rules" and can feel better about giving more violations.
TheShaneover 11 years ago
I don't remember it being refund heavy mid 2012. All I remember is EM being more unstable with a lot of crashed games back then.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
TheShane
Make them accept the epicmafia rules once they sign up?
yeah, because that will make people read them lol
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
And you're gonna have to do 200 reports a day
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
if you refund games regardless of outcome, you're going to water down competitive level play to become very heavily based around refunds circa mid 2012
jackover 11 years ago
TheShane
Lashka
https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=mandevian&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=pranay7744&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=cash&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=Riddler&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=RedMage&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=CyrusTheGreat&reported=
Missed one: https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=bloodcrown&reported=
https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=panthero&reported= gotta get all the pranay accounts
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deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
caroline
xxerox
https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=TheOnlyJazznation&reported=

Try this

Total of 109155 reports found phew thats a lot..
maybe bc his username is actually theonlyjazznation1

smfh
lmao
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
People still don't follow the rules despite saying they read them

For example tigerawr posted in the mod rules thread saying he read them. Then processed to refund his own games.
Stevenover 11 years ago
Why would you punish town for winning even with a handicap?
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
xxerox
https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=TheOnlyJazznation&reported=

Try this

Total of 109155 reports found phew thats a lot..
maybe bc his username is actually theonlyjazznation1

smfh
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AdrenalineMimeover 11 years ago
most rules are common sense but stuff like ISP and GRS are not, at least to a new mafia player
TheShaneover 11 years ago
Lashka
https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=mandevian&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=pranay7744&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=cash&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=Riddler&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=RedMage&reported=

https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=CyrusTheGreat&reported=
Missed one: https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=bloodcrown&reported=
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
HighSpace
Well, I'm way late for this thread and we're probably on a completely different topic now. But I'll say my piece.

Refunds should only apply if the rule breaker was the main reason their team lost. Sometimes, the GT is blatant but it didn't have much of an affect on a game, these types of games shouldn't need a refund.

It would suck to, lets say, be mafia and the gamethrower didn't claim pr when they were being lynched on an ml. Great. Now you have to survive till the end of the game only to have the game refunded. And if you lose? Well that sucks, town won anyways why refund it.

If someone said something similar to this already I'm sorry etc
this was addressed before. SGR made the football analogy. basically, you should still be refunding those games even if town win
xxeroxover 11 years agoedited
https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=TheOnlyJazznation&reported=

Try this

Total of 109155 reports found phew thats a lot..
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
TheShane
Make them accept the epicmafia rules once they sign up?
Nice.
TheShaneover 11 years ago
AdrenalineMime
most new players learn the rules by either 1. word of mouth (unreliable) or 2. getting a violation themselves, the latter which would probably scare them from playing again
i think there's an underlying issue here of new players having no guidance. cough cough wiki
Make them accept the epicmafia rules once they sign up?

Put a link to the rule page when they receive a violation?

You'd think that most players would generally understand what is right or wrong.
HighSpaceover 11 years ago
Okay I probably gave a terrible example but I think you guys see my point
AdrenalineMimeover 11 years ago
ya the rules are something that the mods point to when doing reports, rather than something people read before joining ranked games