New Roles

JonSnowalmost 8 years ago

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

  • Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
  • Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
  • If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
  • To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
  • If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

  • Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

  • Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
  • Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
  • Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

  • If the president dies, takes their place
  • All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
  • Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
  • Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

  • Chooses one person every night.
  • Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
  • Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

  • Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
  • If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
  • If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
  • If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
  • If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
  • Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

  • Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

  • If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
  • Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

  • Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the village

PowerMafia

  • Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the mafia
Poll
What is your favorite role mentioned in this thread?
Cat Lady36%50
Vice President18%26
the Seer15%22
Robinhood8%12
Soldier8%12
Jack the Ripper4%6
Whistleblower4%6
Gossiper2%4
Gurualmost 8 years ago
admin
i need to build reverse miller (needs better name) today lol
admin
i need to build reverse miller (needs better name) today lol
somebody said Butler earlier i think, like the cliche of "it was the butler!"
xxeroxalmost 8 years agoedited
Mafia Sympathiser
adminalmost 8 years ago
i need to build reverse miller (needs better name) today lol
blacksnakemoanalmost 8 years ago
GrannyPixel
Even if the bomb is a powerful role the Defuser won’t be told if they’ve defused the bomb.
Yes they will wtf

I put that in the great big role description I wrote for the role that i made up
blacksnakemoanalmost 8 years ago
GrannyPixel
I still think that if the Bomb is visited by the Defuser they are “defused” permanently - they are informed that they have been defused and are basically blue for the rest of the game.
Lmao ok how many visits does a defuser get to defuse a bomb? Can he just visit people for 4 nights until he finally hits bomb? Bomb is a supremely valuable role, it can't just be countered by another role that will have unlimited chances to find it. Bear in mind that I don't give a damn about fun roles for sandbox and red heart. This needs to work for competitive.

PosterChild
I agree with this. It should be just a visit that prevents bomb from blowing up (=mafia from dying). Maybe it could work like Yakuza for example. So it only prevents bomb from killing other mafia if both Mafia meeting and Defuser meeting are on the same target.

But then shooting the bomb would still kill the shooter during the day for example.
This is ninja. You've just described ninja.

If the bomb still explodes during the day, it's not defused is it.
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
I think this is only going to cause clutter. Imagine if instead of Fabricator, we had 6 different roles giving out fabbed items?
GrannyPixelalmost 8 years ago
I just think that the Defuser role needs to be separate from the Sab, guns should be working fine in games with Defuser.
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
GrannyPixel
Golbolco
GrannyPixel
I completely disagree that the Defuser should be merged with any other role. Obviously they can’t be merged with the Mechanic as the Defuser is a Mafia role (as Town wouldn’t want bombs to be defused) and Saboteur focuses on guns.
The problem with Saboteur is that it *is* focused on guns.

There was a very big push last time Lucid was around to expand its versatility to sabotaging other items. Being able to defuse bombs is basically perfect for it. Saboteur would get used more in setups not involving guns and we'd have a Defuser role.
The Sab role is fine in my opinion, making it also be able to defuse bombs would make it too powerful.
How so? The way I see it, this is a horizontal expansion of the Sab’s power rather than a vertical expansion. In a normal situation, it would be no more powerful than a solo Defuser role is. It’s the same mechanic.
GrannyPixelalmost 8 years ago
Golbolco
GrannyPixel
I completely disagree that the Defuser should be merged with any other role. Obviously they can’t be merged with the Mechanic as the Defuser is a Mafia role (as Town wouldn’t want bombs to be defused) and Saboteur focuses on guns.
The problem with Saboteur is that it *is* focused on guns.

There was a very big push last time Lucid was around to expand its versatility to sabotaging other items. Being able to defuse bombs is basically perfect for it. Saboteur would get used more in setups not involving guns and we'd have a Defuser role.
The Sab role is fine in my opinion, making it also be able to defuse bombs would make it too powerful.
adminalmost 8 years ago
shady
actually apparently invisible man is already fixed can we get it in main
@denial
shadyalmost 8 years ago
actually apparently invisible man is already fixed can we get it in main
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
GrannyPixel
I completely disagree that the Defuser should be merged with any other role. Obviously they can’t be merged with the Mechanic as the Defuser is a Mafia role (as Town wouldn’t want bombs to be defused) and Saboteur focuses on guns.
The problem with Saboteur is that it *is* focused on guns.

There was a very big push last time Lucid was around to expand its versatility to sabotaging other items. Being able to defuse bombs is basically perfect for it. Saboteur would get used more in setups not involving guns and we'd have a Defuser role.
DarkBalmost 8 years ago
Agreed it should be its own
GrannyPixelalmost 8 years ago
I completely disagree that the Defuser should be merged with any other role. Obviously they can’t be merged with the Mechanic as the Defuser is a Mafia role (as Town wouldn’t want bombs to be defused) and Saboteur focuses on guns.
GrannyPixelalmost 8 years ago
I still think that if the Bomb is visited by the Defuser they are “defused” permanently - they are informed that they have been defused and are basically blue for the rest of the game.
shadyalmost 8 years ago
lucid pls fix invisible man so we can have it in main that counts as a new role right
PosterChildalmost 8 years agoedited
In my opinion the whole wire thing is a bit too much.

GrannyPixel
I’m not a fan of the wires for the Defuser. I think they should just be able to defuse any bomb they visit - also if they are handed a bomb it should be defused too.
I agree with this. It should be just a visit that prevents bomb from blowing up (=mafia from dying). Maybe it could work like Yakuza for example. So it only prevents bomb from killing other mafia if both Mafia meeting and Defuser meeting are on the same target.

But then shooting the bomb would still kill the shooter during the day for example.
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
So Consig could just not convert ever, and therefore maintain reverse miller status.
Shwartz99almost 8 years ago
consigliere appears as blue only when lynched before it converts to maf
deleteddeletedalmost 8 years ago
Godfather is reverse suspect, consigliere is something entirely different. This role is a maf who is basically a godfather that flips blue when lynched
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
GrannyPixel
Why can’t the Defuser go around defusing bombs? That’s the whole point of the role in my eyes. Even if the bomb is a powerful role the Defuser won’t be told if they’ve defused the bomb.
Defuser should be merged with Mechanic and Saboteur because we already have roles that are built to alter the states that items are in.
GrannyPixelalmost 8 years ago
Why can’t the Defuser go around defusing bombs? That’s the whole point of the role in my eyes. Even if the bomb is a powerful role the Defuser won’t be told if they’ve defused the bomb.
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
ShawnMichaels
Doesn't consigliere appear as blue when lynched
”Appears to everyone as a villager
Does not attend mafia meetings
Can convert self to mafia once per game.
Sided with the mafia”

Seems like it.
ShawnMichaelsalmost 8 years ago
Doesn't consigliere appear as blue when lynched
SteelixMegaalmost 8 years ago
Golbolco
admin
BearGuru
reverse miller

- Appears as town in cop reports

- When lynched, appears to be town
- Sided with the mafia
wow! brilliant
Isn’t this just Godfather?
appears town if lynched. godfather is basically reverse suspect.

rename this to Butler or Uncle, because y'know the "The Butler did It!" cliche