The shootings

ICouldBeYourDadover 8 years ago

So there's been a lot of shooting recently and the president isnt doing about it.

Australia had its worst mass shooting in 1996 on the 28th of April. 12 days later australia announced a bipartisan deal on sweeping gun control measures. The government brought back and destroyed over a million guns. We (australia) haven't had a mass shooting since.

Why is Trump not doing anything. Children are dying. People aren't living their full lives. If comforting those who have been through trauma and lost loved ones is all they can do b*llfucking sh*t. If saying it will be okay to those victims then saying that to gun owners should be fine too.

Sorry im just annoyed with how this has all been going down.

Poll
Should gun control be changed?
Yes84%89
No15%16
firecapeover 8 years ago
Soleil
is firecape a russian bot :thinking:
congrats on being genuinely interested in one of the most useless topics of discourse imaginable (russia social media infetterance) lol
Flygonover 8 years ago
being bullied in high school is systemic oppression at its finest
firecapeover 8 years ago
somethingwhatever
even so doesnt make him marginalized
in the context of his world he's going to feel extremely marginalized, whether or not you actually hold that to be objective fact is irrelevant, i'm not saying that white men are oppressed in any way
deleteddeletedover 8 years ago
is firecape a russian bot :thinking:
firecapeover 8 years ago
and social issues arnt the only factor, infertile job market, anger at society at an inherent level, delusions of grandeur/superiority complex etc
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
even so doesnt make him marginalized
Devanteover 8 years ago
somethingwhatever
i mean the heroine analogy is great, because both blacks and whites were doing it, but who was being sent en masse to prision were only the blacks, the idea that it would be different with assault rifles is idealist and not based on reality
That’s actually true, I didn’t look at it like that tbh. However I believe there will be a lot more white people not willing to give up their guns than black people .

I’m pretty certain the percentage of black ppl with these guns I want bans is less likely than the percentage of whites
firecapeover 8 years ago
somethingwhatever
these kids are on high school and self exile they arent marginalized jesus
"self-exile" is pretty subjective, some people dont have the social skills or upbringing needed to deal with high school
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
the nikolas cruz kid was JROTC ffs he isnt marginalized
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
white straight men the most marginalized people in the us
deleteddeletedover 8 years ago
haha :) what if i told you :) mental illness :) has nothing :) to do with it :)
firecapeover 8 years ago
theres 0 point in the news cycle covering what their motives were or even being interested in them, posting elliot's manifesto means "98% of people who sees this think he's crazy, 2% of them are the choir he's preaching to and decide to shoot up schools themselves"
somethingwhateverover 8 years agoedited
these kids are on high school and self exile they arent marginalized jesus
firecapeover 8 years ago
Devante
However I think figuring out their motives is a way to preventing future attacks homie
their motives are already clear

1) marginalized by society and glorify mass shooters
2) crazy

anything that they say or do is in these 2 camps

ie the guy who shot two kids in NM was an encyclopedia dramatica admin who updated the "high school" page for shooters every time it happened obsessively lol
Devanteover 8 years ago
I always like to throw in the fact that I’m from Canada in arguments I have in this thread and can state with 100% certainty that the likelihood of me getting shot to death by a non-cop is about 90% less likely than that of any American arguing with me .

However if I’m ever to get shot, here in Canada, it won’t be by an AR15 and there most likely won’t be 50 other names alongside mine lol
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
i mean the heroine analogy is great, because both blacks and whites were doing it, but who was being sent en masse to prision were only the blacks, the idea that it would be different with assault rifles is idealist and not based on reality
deleteddeletedover 8 years ago
news: dead white guy with gun was good guy, actually
alive white guy with gun: i am also, good guy, actually
deleteddeletedover 8 years ago
Devante
firecape
its an indisputable fact that the media glorification of shooters/all the attention that they/their manifestos get is the root cause of the shootings, its basically a copycat thing now, people who feel marginalized in society or life want to make their mark somehow and they know 1 way to do it easily...

not liek there are other ways to do mass killings either. what did klebold and harris use to begin columbine? explosives, wich anyone can make (austin bomber ex.)
That’s what I was responding to @ solieo
then ur still deadass wrong bih
Devanteover 8 years ago
firecape
its an indisputable fact that the media glorification of shooters/all the attention that they/their manifestos get is the root cause of the shootings, its basically a copycat thing now, people who feel marginalized in society or life want to make their mark somehow and they know 1 way to do it easily...

not liek there are other ways to do mass killings either. what did klebold and harris use to begin columbine? explosives, wich anyone can make (austin bomber ex.)
That’s what I was responding to @ solieo
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
ur approach is a paliative as a goal in itself that doesnt attack any root causes, its garbage
Devanteover 8 years ago
somethingwhatever
heroine addicts make for great roomates i hear
If u are addicted to drugs I’d rather find them help than lock them up

If u want to hold onto an assault rifle I’d rather take it away or lock u up and then take it away
firecapeover 8 years ago
somethingwhatever
NK already does that!
yeah there badass but the "our leader bowled a 300" crap can go feel me?
deleteddeletedover 8 years ago
no deleting posts we leave our mistakes in the open like MEN
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
NK already does that!
deleteddeletedover 8 years ago
oh nvm carry on