Spamming

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago

Right now the mod team is discussing spamming as a vio and we're considering condensing it into one vio. This means that spamming in unranked games will now be a community vio and thus against the rules, contrary to how it is currently moderated. It would also be moderated in sandbox, which it currently isn't.

Right now, we just want to get a consensus of how the site feels about this. Do you think spamming should be moderated in unranked + sandbox?

Poll
Should spamming be moderated in unranked and sandbox?
No60%39
Yes39%25
jackalmost 12 years ago
Mirasical
it should be done on an individual basis rather than say "spamming in unranked is always ok" clearly this guy needs to be banned but there will be cases of harmless spamming...
agreed. spamming things completely unrelated to the game ruins it for everyone, even in unranked. the sheer amount of times it has occurred by one person should be a ban imho. The rule can be extremely lightly moderated in unranked and go on a case by case basis if necessary, but its idiotic to let someone prance around unranked games doing lots of hardcore spamming knowing full well he can get away with it.
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Anna
Hey guys lets add more moderation the only place where you aren't threatened to be reported for gt every game. If people aren't being threatened with being reported then we must be doing something wrong!
A user recently got reported 40 different times over the course of 21 days but received no violations because he was technically doing 'nothing wrong.' I think this is an indication that something has to change.
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Sandboxalmost 12 years ago
Vancy
Miloo7
Modding sandbox for spamming is dumb, period
Modding unranked main games should be considered depending how the spamming has affected the game
Sandbox moderation of spamming isn't really being considered at the moment. The main issue is with unranked main lobby games.
"Right now, we just want to get a consensus of how the site feels about this. Do you think spamming should be moderated in unranked + sandbox?"

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deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Miloo7
Modding sandbox for spamming is dumb, period
Modding unranked main games should be considered depending how the spamming has affected the game
Sandbox moderation of spamming isn't really being considered at the moment. The main issue is with unranked main lobby games.
Annaalmost 12 years ago
Hey guys lets add more moderation the only place where you aren't threatened to be reported for gt every game. If people aren't being threatened with being reported then we must be doing something wrong!
Miloo7almost 12 years ago
Modding sandbox for spamming is dumb, period
Modding unranked main games should be considered depending how the spamming has affected the game
Stevenalmost 12 years ago
ty vancy
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years agoedited
Steven
Reminder that as long as no consensus is reached and the rule is made moderators can't give spamming violations in unranked games, because spamming is not against the rules.
I already retracted that violation, no reminder needed. I'm working to change the rule instead.
Laexioalmost 12 years ago
who is going to stop them steven!!!!
Stevenalmost 12 years ago
Reminder that as long as no consensus is reached and the rule is made moderators can't give spamming violations in unranked games, because spamming is not against the rules.
payamcfalmost 12 years ago
imo spamming is not really a big issue in sb+unranked since there is the time out mechanism. Although vote spams are really annoying in sb so just make the vote spam as a community vio.
EmmerrLouisealmost 12 years ago
Yes to moderation in all Main lobby games, but as for Sandbox I couldn't support either way because I don't play there enough.

If you can't get a word in edgeways because someone is either chat spamming or vote spamming, there ceases to be any point in playing.

Sims
...unranked main lobby games are mostly for new players. anybody who is spamming excessively is going out of their way to ruin the game... and when a new player is just learning how to play the game excessive spam can really ruin the experience
I think this is the key point in terms of Main - spam can seem aggressive and/or intimidating, so where many new players are (unranked main games), it shouldn't be 'allowed'. Perhaps if the spam is excessive and/or hurtful/offensive, it could come under the definition of 'trolling'?
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
it should be done on an individual basis rather than say "spamming in unranked is always ok" clearly this guy needs to be banned but there will be cases of harmless spamming...
gistofeverythingalmost 12 years ago
As long as you're moderating for text spam. Vote spamming can easily be avoided if you don't want to see it.
TweIvealmost 12 years ago
http://i.imgur.com/mxQCEQG.png

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This is why spamming should be allowed in unranked.
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AsbelLhantalmost 12 years ago
unranked yes
sandbox no
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Pretty sure the general consensus was to just to make it a violation for unranked Main Lobby games, and to let Sandbox handle itself. I could be mistaken though.
LadyNemesisalmost 12 years ago
It might even scare them away from the site.
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Simsalmost 12 years ago
i think the major issue is that unranked main lobby games are mostly for new players. anybody who is spamming excessively is going out of their way to ruin the game knowing that they won't get penalized, and when a new player is just learning how to play the game excessive spam can really ruin the experience
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jackalmost 12 years agoedited
LadyNemesis
I have no idea if that could be easily done. I'd say we could add in the rules that spamming will be moderated pretty lightly in unranked games.

I think excessive spam and vote spam does seriously make games less enjoyable. And in the end unranked games are to have fun too right :)
yeah this is really what should be the result, very LIGHT moderation in unranked games. Like i said, very excessive spamming in one game or excessive spamming over a variety of games should be vios. But like seeing that all the time in unranked games really makes it hard to enjoy the game. To further clarify, it really doesnt even happen that often, just when it does its at the level where the game is borderline unplayable, and certainly unenjoyable
LadyNemesisalmost 12 years ago
I have no idea if that could be easily done. I'd say we could add in the rules that spamming will be moderated pretty lightly in unranked games.

I think excessive spam and vote spam does seriously make games less enjoyable. And in the end unranked games are to have fun too right :)
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jackalmost 12 years ago
Jackhammer
JepoJ
What about adding a mute button?
This is a good idea. Muting players in unranked should be a feature imo.
something you can toggle on and off yeah
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
JepoJ
What about adding a mute button?
This is a good idea. Muting players in unranked should be a feature imo.
Diabolikalmost 12 years ago
I say you guys should use like logic beside rules... Spam one game fine but disturb users for no reason or to test scripst should be vio or ban not just cause unranked.. you can't spam in forums
jackalmost 12 years ago
The only time spamming gets reported from what i can tell is when its excessive, and I think excessive spamming in unranked games should get a violation. I understand that people are hesitant because they fear it'll become really over-scrutinized, but if the spammer does it excessively in one game or over several games, they should get a vio. That's how it should work in my opinion