New Roles

JonSnowalmost 8 years ago

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

  • Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
  • Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
  • If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
  • To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
  • If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

  • Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

  • Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
  • Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
  • Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

  • If the president dies, takes their place
  • All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
  • Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
  • Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

  • Chooses one person every night.
  • Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
  • Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

  • Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
  • If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
  • If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
  • If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
  • If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
  • Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

  • Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

  • If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
  • Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

  • Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the village

PowerMafia

  • Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the mafia
Poll
What is your favorite role mentioned in this thread?
Cat Lady36%50
Vice President18%26
the Seer15%22
Robinhood8%12
Soldier8%12
Jack the Ripper4%6
Whistleblower4%6
Gossiper2%4
blacksnakemoanalmost 8 years ago
i see soluciones found the thread and decided to lower the iq
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
That's fair enough.
Shwartz99almost 8 years ago
just trying to get peoples brains thinking in case they think like me :(

also if they have a role in mind but without a name they can get one from the list
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Golbolcoalmost 8 years agoedited
And didn't I tell you that I think you do it backwards? :P

gameshowmaster
Partysmith...
Hey actually, could we consider doing this Lucid? I remember it was a pretty popular suggestion a while ago. With Gunslinger/Sharpshooter, it could be even more fun. I just hate its name.
Shwartz99almost 8 years ago
Golbolco
You could make a role for almost every animate noun in the English language. I don't think listing the names is much help.
i already told you this, i like to think of a name first and then develop the role :D
gameshowmasteralmost 8 years ago
Partysmith...
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
You could make a role for almost every animate noun in the English language. I don't think listing the names is much help.
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Shwartz99almost 8 years ago
Shwartz99
List of possible role names which haven't been used:

Acrobat
Advertiser
Artist
Astronaut
Astronomer
Babysitter
Bartender
Beggar
Botanist
Boxer
Candlemaker/Chandler
Carpenter
Cashier
Choreographer
Clerk
Clown (hehe this is golb's role)
Coach
Con artist
Critic
Designer
Farmer
Fast-food worker
Fireman/woman
Fisherman/woman
Gamer
Garbageman/woman
Guard
Hairdresser/Stylist
Hacker
Inventor
Investor
Luchador
Mailman/woman
Manager
Mascot
Mayor
Merchant
Missionary
Model
Musician
Pharmacist
Photographer
Pirate
Principal
Salesman/woman
Sailor
Sculptor
Singer
Smuggler
Teacher
Trucker
Unionist
Waiter/Waitress
Wizard
Wrestler
Writer
oh and here are some more:

Miner
Rancher
Lumberjack
Insurance Agent
Foreman
Surveyor
Builder
Dentist
Courier
Entrepreneur
Auctioneer
Banker
Teller
Broker
Pilot
Accountant
Chairman
Trader
Investor
Realtor
Landlord
Veterinarian
Hotelier/Innkeeper
Electrician
Gemologist
Jeweler
Winemaker
Cartographer
Barista
Florist
Gas Jockey
Gardener
Interpreter/Translator
Diplomat
Geologist
Chemist
Physicist
Scientist
Biologist
Philanthropist
Historian
Economist
Sociologist
Archaeologist
Anthropologist
Technician
Poet
Environmentalist/Conservationist
Knight
Moneylender
Potter
Spinster
Squire
Butcher
Shoemaker/Cobbler
Barber
Astrologer
Summoner
Cannoneer
Poacher
Diver/Pearler
Bard/Minstrel
Shepherd
Falconer
Alchemist
Engraver
Fortune Teller
Glassblower
Navigator
Captain
Mercenary
adminalmost 8 years ago
shady12
Supervillain is Superbroken. Game ended immediately and said Sidekick won (person who was Supervillain)
ah you are right, i put in a fix!
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Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
TelluriumNitrogen
"stray dog" role

village sided
any non-killing role visiting it will be roleblocked
if night killed, a message will appear to everyone with 3 names, one of which is whoever killed it (whether it be maf, vig, killer etc)
Reminds me of Ascetic but more powerful. Not sure how I feel on this one.
TelluriumNitrogenalmost 8 years agoedited
"stray dog" role

village sided
any non-killing role visiting it will be roleblocked
if night killed, a message will appear to everyone with 3 names, one of which is whoever killed it (whether it be maf, vig, killer etc)
shady12almost 8 years ago
Supervillain is Superbroken. Game ended immediately and said Sidekick won (person who was Supervillain)
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shayneismynamealmost 8 years agoedited
Curious what yall think of this: I hear that a lot of what helps new users is spectating once they die, and seeing how people play certain roles. Currently, once you die, the only way to know someone's role is basically seeing their night meeting.

What if, once you die, everyone's icon shows as their role?
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shayneismynamealmost 8 years ago
admin
Shayne, do you want to help compile in Google docs a list of features, from low hanging to difficult that will dramatically help new players on board in the game?
Yeah, I could do that.
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
DarkB
DarkB
admin this is just a quick fix, I had a setup that got blacklisted due to mechanics on bride. When bride marries someone, it shows the name of the bride, creating a meta. Could you just change the message or take the name of the bride out?

Example of a situation in another setup:
Bride chooses to marry the sniper, Sniper knows who Bride is, proceeds to shoot them
No offense to everyone posting role ideas (this is a role ideas forum) but do we have somewhere where we can post bug fixes?
You could try posting them here: https://epicmafia.com/topic/91151
DarkBalmost 8 years ago
DarkB
admin this is just a quick fix, I had a setup that got blacklisted due to mechanics on bride. When bride marries someone, it shows the name of the bride, creating a meta. Could you just change the message or take the name of the bride out?

Example of a situation in another setup:
Bride chooses to marry the sniper, Sniper knows who Bride is, proceeds to shoot them
No offense to everyone posting role ideas (this is a role ideas forum) but do we have somewhere where we can post bug fixes?
sl0ndermanalmost 8 years agoedited
lucaskart
Not really the setup, but instead it's interactions with the other famous roles that appears in competitive setups often, it's nearly impossible to have the "perfect setup".
it's both. i.e. a niche role needs to be considered in the context of a setup and a more general role needs to be considered against popular roles

edit: just had an idea it would be cool to see which roles are the most used. obviously blue nilla cop doctor but i'd like to see, for instance, what percentage of setups have a tailor in them.
DarkBalmost 8 years ago
lucaskart
Not really the setup, but instead it's interactions with the other famous roles that appears in competitive setups often, it's nearly impossible to have the "perfect setup".
exactly
lucaskartalmost 8 years ago
Not really the setup, but instead it's interactions with the other famous roles that appears in competitive setups often, it's nearly impossible to have the "perfect setup".
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
PosterChild
In my opinion the key to make a role competitive is a perfect setup, not the role itself.
This is 100% key to my thought process. If you make a role and don't have a setup in mind (closed role setups don't count) you're doing it wrong.
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
Soluciones
also whats different from the rain dude to widow? lol the widow punishes the town for lynching her so town is rushed to lynch asap before its too late, instead of the rainmaker doing it whenever he wants
I'm not a fan of punishing the town for lynching the mafia except in very special cases (like Nephew/Cub from Ultimate Werewolf.) Imagine a soccer player getting a yellow card for making a goal, does that sound correct to you?
deleteddeletedalmost 8 years ago
its ok
Golbolcoalmost 8 years ago
Soluciones
also what about a role that gives an item to the dead and its passed around and the role can then summon everyone dead back to life? maybe we could rework creepy girl what do u think golbolco? thats sandboxy tho
You're going to have to explain this more. I don't want to redo creepy girl, I think it's fine.

Soluciones
cat lady just makes mafia autowins easier. its just hooker+gramps with a twist.

and seer is a civilian thats knows all mafias from the getgo
I know what the roles are. Tell me why they're not competitive by your definition.

Soluciones
justice: theres cop and roles that revolve around the cops mechanics for you to decide if you lynch the report or not (miller, godfather, lawyer, framer).

commuter blocks the person who visits it. again, i dont really see the point of it blocking you.
I don't understand your objection to Justice. Commuter is a role for scumclaiming and causing confusion when hookers/drunks/roleblockers are in the setup.
deleteddeletedalmost 8 years agoedited
also lucid. take out chance from roles, its sht
deleteddeletedalmost 8 years ago
thats true if it wasnt because theyre just a combination of features that current simple roles do and sometimes a twist is added.

thats why theres nothing competitive with surgeon.