Telling people "KYS" - not a ban?

Chicagoover 8 years ago

Since when is telling people to kill themselves not an instant ban. I remember when i was a mod, if somebody told someone else to kill themselves and it wasn't a joke (not that it's a good thing to even joke about) it was an instant ban. Pretty sure Lucid made that clear to us when we were mods. Now when i reported somebody for it, they just get a warning? When did this change?

If it did change, it needs to be changed back to an instant ban. 1st: 24hrs 2nd: month. 3rd: site

Poll
telling someone to kys
Warning75%41
Instant Ban24%13
Flygonover 8 years ago
i guess because people won't kill themselves after being told "kill yourself", that means it's an A OK thing to say and we should all say it any time we face an inconvenience in the game of mafia
illuminatiover 8 years ago
Ok but consider this: kill yourself
Devanteover 8 years ago
you guys basically use the same arguments for why "Rtard" should be auto vio'd

****

"Is your vocab so limited that u have to use rtard blah blah blah"


this is even less serious than calling someone a rtard (Shockingly)

it's not that serious, get over it. it's not a vio.
MisterPresidentover 8 years ago
PeanutMarmaduke
is getting mad and finding more creative means of making someone else feel mad any less awful than typing "kill yourself" ?
If finding a better way to be angry at someone besides "kill yourself" takes any ounce of creativity then that is really, really sad
Devanteover 8 years ago
MisterPresident
Is it really more gratifying to tell someone to kill themselves over more appropriate outlets for anger

There's nothing wrong with getting mad but why does it have to resort to the most possible extreme verbiage
"kys" is not as serious as u are making it seem.
"f@ggot/n*gger" and all those are a lot more severe than telling someone to kys & even those shouldn't be auto vios tbh.

what shrek is trying to get across is that saying KYS is not that serious.... no one will actually kill themselves from hearing some stranger online saying it no matter what strawman argument you try to bring forth
Flygonover 8 years ago
maybe instead of going out of your way to say reductive and derisive things to someone when you're mad, maybe take a break from a website that you visit in leisure time that is intended for leisure.
Jeffover 8 years ago
God Reggie your takes are horrid I’m sorry but there’s no way around it. What you’re saying is bad.
Giga13over 8 years ago
"LOL I love to poop my diaper" - me
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Giga13over 8 years ago
Moreover, people around the globe live in different circumstances, therefore people kill themselves for different reasons. Culture, society, and geography play a role in this enigma as well and ignoring their roles would be an ignorant thing to do in my opinion
PeanutMarmadukeover 8 years ago
is getting mad and finding more creative means of making someone else feel mad any less awful than typing "kill yourself" ?
Flygonover 8 years ago
"LOL I love to poop my diaper" - me because i think telling someone to kill themselves is bad
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Giga13over 8 years ago
@OP: IMO It should be a violation, not a warning or an instant ban
MisterPresidentover 8 years ago
Is it really more gratifying to tell someone to kill themselves over more appropriate outlets for anger

There's nothing wrong with getting mad but why does it have to resort to the most possible extreme verbiage
Flygonover 8 years ago
PeanutMarmaduke
stay quiet in the mud where u belong, peasant
*eats mud because i'm sub 70 iq*
MisterPresidentover 8 years ago
I do not know what the issue is for people that you cannot tell others to kill themselves
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Giga13over 8 years agoedited
I strongly disagree with my boy SHERK on this one. Suicidal people are not weak. Also we never know what people are going through, it isn't very nice to say that if someone kills themselves over being told "kys" that you don't care about them. I think that is a rather sour viewpoint personally.

However, it almost never happens that the only reason someone kills themselves is because someone on the internet told them "kys". I don't understand why that's even being talked about because that is never the only reason people kill themselves, it is usually because of many variables which have combined into a feeling which the person feels like they cannot escape, or that they are in so much pain from it that they believe the only way out is to take their own life. Someone telling another person "kys" could be close to a breaking point for some people going through a lot of this type of pain, but almost never is, so I'm not sure why that discussion is even being had
PeanutMarmadukeover 8 years ago
stay quiet in the mud where u belong, peasant
Flygonover 8 years ago
MisterPresident
I swear there's nowhere else in the world that you can find better conversations than on EpicMafia.com
i for one liked the take "suicide is only something people with privilege do"
MisterPresidentover 8 years ago
I swear there's nowhere else in the world that you can find better conversations than on EpicMafia.com
SHERKover 8 years ago
refresh ur cache ydb i uploaded my new avi like a month ago
Flygonover 8 years ago
got a new picture for my bio

SHERKover 8 years ago
Ally
jesus christ imagine saying "your problems don't matter because they aren't as big as poverty or sex trafficking" this is the most f/cking ignorant thing i've ever read in my life

wish i could tell my depression "hey people in africa are starving and i'm not so can you just go away? thanks"
I didn't say your problems don't matter. I said at least you can cure your depression if you just identified the root of the problem and looked for ways to fix it. Just by living in Canada, you will never be locked into a disfavourable position for the rest of your life, as long as you're constantly working to get yourself out.

A frame of reference is important when considering why you might be depressed. To quote one of my favourite songs, it's a fundamental mistake to search for happiness; Happiness is something you are, and it comes from within.

Speaking from my own experiences and from what I've seen, my perspective is that we are all often so caught up with what we don't have that we forget to take the time to be appreciative of what we do.
SHERKover 8 years ago
Jeff
There's a lot of bad assumptions made in this post I hope you at least realize that. I don't want to argue but calling suicidal people mostly weak, privileged idiots is kinda detrimental to the whole discussion of suicide prevention.
Maybe, everyone's situation is different, but I think the mainstream glorification of suicide is equally detrimental.

My point was simply to state that the problems that drive people to commit suicide in developed countries are solveable - they usually just require money, time, a change of environment, or a mix of the three. Just by living in these countries grants you the opportunity to determine the course of your life by simply making the correct decisions. This is something that people often forget. People in many other parts of the world are often locked into sh*tty circumstances from birth and regardless of how hard they may try, there's nothing they can do about it. Even in developed countries like South Korea, people are killing themselves on the daily, because regardless of how hard they work/educate themselves, they can still find themselves in situations where it's impossible to financially provide for their families

A big problem that I feel like is causing our society to slowly decay is externalizing our problems and responsibilities onto others. Sure, it is important to provide the necessary resources and support for others going through tough times, but this isn't mandatory and should never be seen as so. It is primarily THOSE peoples' responsibility to find the right people and places to acquire the help they need.
deleteddeletedover 8 years ago
SHERK
Suicide is for the most part, committed by weak, privileged idiots. People are constantly stuck in this "grass is always greener on the other side" mentality when there are billions of people around the world living in unimaginably horrific circumstances who are somehow still able to get through it all? 24/7 electricity, running water, sanitation, and safety are such examples of basic privileges taken for granted that billions of people lack access to. Hundreds of thousands of people in North America alone are sexually abused, trafficked, or food-insecure. Look @ places like Liberia, then look @ your own life situation and for most people, you'll realize that things aren't so bad.
jesus christ imagine saying "your problems don't matter because they aren't as big as poverty or sex trafficking" this is the most f/cking ignorant thing i've ever read in my life

wish i could tell my depression "hey people in africa are starving and i'm not so can you just go away? thanks"
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Jeffover 8 years ago
Shïtty people have always kept well-intentioned good people out of places and things that could be fun and great if the shïtty people weren't there, but nonetheless the shïtty people exist so we just kinda cut our losses and move away.
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