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The shootings

ICouldBeYourDadover 8 years ago

So there's been a lot of shooting recently and the president isnt doing about it.

Australia had its worst mass shooting in 1996 on the 28th of April. 12 days later australia announced a bipartisan deal on sweeping gun control measures. The government brought back and destroyed over a million guns. We (australia) haven't had a mass shooting since.

Why is Trump not doing anything. Children are dying. People aren't living their full lives. If comforting those who have been through trauma and lost loved ones is all they can do b*llfucking sh*t. If saying it will be okay to those victims then saying that to gun owners should be fine too.

Sorry im just annoyed with how this has all been going down.

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Should gun control be changed?
Yes84%89
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RainyDaysover 8 years ago
blacksnakemoan
lmao i love it how the people who are like "hurr my guns protect me from the gubbment!!" are the same ones hyping up the cops and the military against black protesters.
I like how liberal are all like Trumps the worst dictator in the world, but then turn and say Trump please TAKE ALL OUR GUNS PLEASE.

DISARM US.
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
saying mass shootings r bad, doesnt matter, what matters is how stop it or decrease the numbers, how to make effective change through policies and actions, not words or ideas
Warrensover 8 years ago
lol that's a pretty -poor argument. i think what everyone is saying that the profound access we have to guns allows mass-shootings like these to happen with ease.
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
didnt say it doesnt matter, im saying idealism doesnt solve anything, you gotta approach things materially
RainyDaysover 8 years ago
somethingwhatever
STOP SAYING SH1T LIKE MORAL AND CULTURE, YOU GODDAMN IDEALISTS
If morals don't matter, then this school shooting wasn't wrong.
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
gonna debate a goddamn active shooter on utilitarianism
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
STOP SAYING SH1T LIKE MORAL AND CULTURE, YOU GODDAMN IDEALISTS
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
anyone who thinks the american state wouldnt just confiscate black people's guns and leave all white people still armed needs to read up
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RainyDaysover 8 years ago
The reformation that needs to happen is within the education, and moral system.

What matter's is what people believe, evolution teaches we are merely animals.

If we are merely animals, then morality doesn't exist, and people can do whatever we want.

People need to be taught that morality is Objective, that we are greater then mere beasts.
Warrensover 8 years ago
you are literally harping on a hypothetical situation, not acknowledging that there needs to be a reformation to a current system
RainyDaysover 8 years ago
You don't realize you are trying to build this perfect safe box.

But someone is going to have the keys.
RainyDaysover 8 years ago
jimmyjimjam
Background checks aren't enough. The florida shooter had a clean record but was insane. We need yearly psychiatric screenings
Imao, that's really scary.
You want the government reaching out and determining who is sane or not?
blacksnakemoanover 8 years ago
There's been no holocaust against white people on American soil lmao
jimmyjimjamover 8 years ago
Background checks aren't enough. The florida shooter had a clean record but was insane. We need yearly psychiatric screenings
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blacksnakemoanover 8 years ago
lmao i love it how the people who are like "hurr my guns protect me from the gubbment!!" are the same ones hyping up the cops and the military against black protesters.

It's like the think the government that will come to attack them is the senators not the soldiers

Also

RainyDays
somethingwhatever
1. Do we need guns to protect us from the government?
Government is made up of wealthy people, who want power, who have power.
yeah they got better guns than your pissy little AR buddy
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somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
hypebeast
there will only be stricter gun control laws when oppressed individuals start to own more of them
see: black panthers
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hypebeastover 8 years ago
there will only be stricter gun control laws when oppressed individuals start to own more of them
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hypebeastover 8 years ago
wow WHAT a post from pranay
hypebeastover 8 years ago
mandevian
People who can't interpret gt rule on epicmafia properly are discussing and being asked to discuss real life laws and regulations.
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degen3000over 8 years ago
My dissertation of why gun laws will never be changed in America


Exhibit A:


Exhibit B:


Exhibit C:
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somethingwhateverover 8 years agoedited
also i disagree on the assassinating a president, shooting kennedy was protecting the world, that man was constantly put the world near nuclear holocaust
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
dont get why u quote me quoting lazy but u do u fam!!
go off, rainy
RainyDaysover 8 years ago
somethingwhatever
1. Do we need guns to protect us from the government?
Government is made up of wealthy people, who want power, who have power.

Do we need gun's to protect us from that?

somethingwhatever
Honestly, this is the f*cking government, if they wanted to take us out they'd do it. We don't need full on assault rifles and such, but I don't see a problem in having a handgun or two for self defense for house breaking and such.

also forgot to do this one!!
do we need guns to protect from the gov, and if we get them would that work?
If the govt has the assault rifles and we have the handguns, I think we know how that's going to end.

Assassinating a president isn't normally considered "protecting" yourself from the government.

If the government is coming onto your house and trying to send you into concentration camps. Aka Holocaust.

Then maybe guns might be a little useful.
deleteddeletedover 8 years ago
Now i know none of yall are about the smoke, except for my girl mltve
somethingwhateverover 8 years ago
my political position is pro gramer and pro consumer (guns consumers)