Anti-Shariah Rally

somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago

how dumb r u, for u to think the usa is in risk of falling under shariah law, like seriously??

Poll
How Dumb
Full blown r3tard66%4
Dumb as rocks33%2
just a bit nutty0%0
deleteddeletedabout 9 years ago
GentIeman
Imagine Sonseray as he presses enter of attacking the intelligence of someone.
"hah this will show my intellectual superiority"
After this light chuckle he goes back to writing on his loose leaf piece of paper of pseudo deep writings reflecting on his loss of love.
Not so far off from the truth. Is what you're doing composed of some deeper purpose? I doubt it.
GentIemanabout 9 years ago
Imagine Sonseray as he presses enter of attacking the intelligence of someone.
"hah this will show my intellectual superiority"
After this light chuckle he goes back to writing on his loose leaf piece of paper of pseudo deep writings reflecting on his loss of love.
GentIemanabout 9 years ago
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This is a dumb argument without a conclusion but if it helps any Gentleman is a dumb brainwashed conservative who is very thankful for the opportunity to be poor and racist in North America.
Where have I said anything racist or that i'm conservative.
I mean at least i'm not complaining on Em everyday that my gf cheated on me.
deleteddeletedabout 9 years ago
This is a dumb argument without a conclusion but if it helps any Gentleman is a dumb brainwashed conservative who is very thankful for the opportunity to be poor and racist in North America.
GentIemanabout 9 years ago
Your whole argument is off the assumption if i had the same parents. If they were born in Africa they wouldn't be the same parents that I have. They would not have the same lineage that they have which would be a major component of who I am.
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
GentIeman
somethingwhatever
no they wouldnt and thats my whole point, ur parents r not nietzschian uber men they will teach u what the ruling ideology tells u and ur mindset and behavior will be formed by ur material conditions, do u really disagree with that?
I believe that there is biological and nurture involved to create a person. In your scenario you said my same parents. What does this mean? If they aren't teaching me the same thing they taught me here are they really the same parents that taught me? What if my parents were missionaries that were from the states and I grew up in the poor community like the poor Africans but was schooled. Would my parents not be defying the culture around them and creating their own environment?
"u belive biology is a factor in the person" yet u think if the person changes places its not even the same person, thats nice
if ur parents were missionaries that would be different than the thought experiment i am propposing it would hit the same problem as the immigrant culture, im talking about if u change the superstructure around u, u will be more different than if i simply change ur parents
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
GentIeman
somethingwhatever
if ur kids r only taught working class values by their working class parents, that kid will most likely not grow up to be banker
This is really really stupid. There is plenty of examples of people who have worked in factories who have children that went on to become highly educated to be doctors, bankers etc.

How do you explain the poor chinese immigrants that come here that struggle in low paying jobs. But then their children go on to succeed in every measurable outlet in life compared to other demographics.
"most likely" is in there, plus immigrant culture is different than the local culture
honesly how do u explain the ever decreasing socially mobility on a country like americal where the idea of u can become anything is there but the culture is not?
GentIemanabout 9 years ago
somethingwhatever
if ur kids r only taught working class values by their working class parents, that kid will most likely not grow up to be banker
This is really really stupid. There is plenty of examples of people who have worked in factories who have children that went on to become highly educated to be doctors, bankers etc.

How do you explain the poor chinese immigrants that come here that struggle in low paying jobs. But then their children go on to succeed in every measurable outlet in life compared to other demographics.
GentIemanabout 9 years ago
somethingwhatever
no they wouldnt and thats my whole point, ur parents r not nietzschian uber men they will teach u what the ruling ideology tells u and ur mindset and behavior will be formed by ur material conditions, do u really disagree with that?
I believe that there is biological and nurture involved to create a person. In your scenario you said my same parents. What does this mean? If they aren't teaching me the same thing they taught me here are they really the same parents that taught me? What if my parents were missionaries that were from the states and I grew up in the poor community like the poor Africans but was schooled. Would my parents not be defying the culture around them and creating their own environment?
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
if ur kids r only taught working class values by their working class parents, that kid will most likely not grow up to be banker
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
childs need parent role models if u want create a status quo and crush class mobility
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
no they wouldnt and thats my whole point, ur parents r not nietzschian uber men they will teach u what the ruling ideology tells u and ur mindset and behavior will be formed by ur material conditions, do u really disagree with that?
GentIemanabout 9 years ago
somethingwhatever
the end of "nuclear family" is only a factor in a intersectionalist way, so it would not be a thing made on by force, it would only be cultural, where in a gift economy or a collectivist or a communist, or whatever the community would be helping each other so the single mom would not be alone as she is now under capitalism where there is no incentive for u to help her other than feeling good, much better is to give ur kids more stuff
plus there is the whole decrease in working schedules that would allow the single mom to stay more time with her kids... the kid doesnt differenciate the affection it would be getting from her dad or other member of community all it needs is to be loved
A child needs an active role model to give them guidance, they need more than just love.

somethingwhatever
i mean do i really need statistics for u to understand that if u had the same parents but grow up in africa u will be a completly different person?
If my parents were born in africa would they really teach me the same things? How can you prove this theory.
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
the end of "nuclear family" is only a factor in a intersectionalist way, so it would not be a thing made on by force, it would only be cultural, where in a gift economy or a collectivist or a communist, or whatever the community would be helping each other so the single mom would not be alone as she is now under capitalism where there is no incentive for u to help her other than feeling good, much better is to give ur kids more stuff
plus there is the whole decrease in working schedules that would allow the single mom to stay more time with her kids... the kid doesnt differenciate the affection it would be getting from her dad or other member of community all it needs is to be loved
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
i mean do i really need statistics for u to understand that if u had the same parents but grow up in africa u will be a completly different person?
GentIemanabout 9 years ago
somethingwhatever
thats like my whole point its environment not parenting...
It's been shown that a baby who isn't given enough affection will not gain weight properly. But if they are given affection and massaged everyday the baby will gain more weight then its peers and be healthier. This would be nurture.

One parent household isn't an environment the children are lacking 1/2 the nurturing that they require.
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
if u live in this material condition on this society u will turn out like this, if u r poorer or richer or in a different society u will turn out differently even if ur parents are the same
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
thats like my whole point its environment not parenting...
GentIemanabout 9 years ago
somethingwhatever
ppl r shapped by the material conditions around them and the ruling ideology 90% of the time, this whole parents are what makes u is nonsense and its just something ppl tell themselves to feel important.
if u take someone and parent them when they r poor they will turn out one way
if u give the same parenting but with them rich, they will turn out a different way
or else we would be having constanst challenges to the status quo, wich we dont

more so biology is also a important factor, the whole separated twins thing shows that, where they reunite separated twins and they drive the same car, have simillar wife and lifes
How about you provide statistics that prove this. I can provide statistics that can show the detrimental effects of one parent households.

When it comes to nature vs nurture both matter, from what I recall the twins in those lived in almost identical environments.
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
furthermore its just something that ppl belive when they r stuck in the mindset of great man make history
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
ppl r shapped by the material conditions around them and the ruling ideology 90% of the time, this whole parents are what makes u is nonsense and its just something ppl tell themselves to feel important.
if u take someone and parent them when they r poor they will turn out one way
if u give the same parenting but with them rich, they will turn out a different way
or else we would be having constanst challenges to the status quo, wich we dont

more so biology is also a important factor, the whole separated twins thing shows that, where they reunite separated twins and they drive the same car, have simillar wife and lifes
GentIemanabout 9 years agoedited
Lmao letting media guide your kids or school for that matter. Community does play a big role yes but I'd say the the most important is that of the parents.


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GentIeman
Also the idea of egalitarianism is better in marriages is a myth. Relationships with swapped standard gender roles show less happiness and less sex in the marriage compared to the more standard. If you want to be an empowered feminist married you are less likely to have a happy life.
I wouldn't be happy in my relationship unless my significant other felt fulfilled in life and like they were free to pursue every dream they've ever had, instead of dependent on me and subjugated, but that's probably just the out-dated idea of loving someone that got me cheated on.
I'm not saying don't give them power to choose to live their life. All I'm saying is that sometimes the idea that social constructs dictates what we find
attractive is wrong. A lot of what we find attractive is evolutionary and not something we can change because we say it is sexist.
somethingwhateverabout 9 years ago
GentIeman
somethingwhatever
the family idea that communist oppose is that of woman's subjugation to men, and the complete subjugation of the child to their parents, as in the kids has the right to wear what he wants or cut his hair the way he wants or listern to the music he wants.
the whole communists wants 5 dads all fcking each other in free love is bullcrap
Can you quote thing he said that proves this. Also children need guidance, they can't understand how society or culture expectations works or morality on their own.
r u saying the community, media and school do not play the biggest part in that, cause i would beg to differ
deleteddeletedabout 9 years ago
GentIeman
Also the idea of egalitarianism is better in marriages is a myth. Relationships with swapped standard gender roles show less happiness and less sex in the marriage compared to the more standard. If you want to be an empowered feminist married you are less likely to have a happy life.
I wouldn't be happy in my relationship unless my significant other felt fulfilled in life and like they were free to pursue every dream they've ever had, instead of dependent on me and subjugated, but that's probably just the out-dated idea of loving someone that got me cheated on.
GentIemanabout 9 years ago
Also the idea of egalitarianism is better in marriages is a myth. Relationships with swapped standard gender roles show less happiness and less sex in the marriage compared to the more standard. If you want to be an empowered feminist married you are less likely to have a happy life.