Moderating hipfire

Codyabout 10 years ago

The mod team has recently been discussing how to moderate hipfiring. The current precedent is to consider it a trolling violation in red heart games and a game throwing (GT) violation in competitive games.

We're deciding between the current precedent and two other options.

  1. Trolling throughout. The idea behind this is that game rules are game rules and that moderation should be standardized between red and gold heart games.
  2. Game throwing throughout. This plays to the idea that the action of hipfiring is generally done without "playing to win" and as such falls under game throwing.

Please vote in the poll and if you feel that you have a point that you would like to make, post in this thread. If you have another option that you think is viable, please also let us know!

Poll
What should hipfiring be moderated as?
Trolling in red hearts, GT in gold hearts51%42
Game throwing22%18
Trolling19%16
Other (please explain)6%5
groundhogdayabout 10 years ago
vilden
IT'S TROLLING

NO ONE HIPFIRES WITH INTENT TO NOT WIN

THEY'RE JUST F UCKING AROUND

TROLLING VIOLATIONS STACK UP EASIER TOO SO WE CAN BAN TROLLS FASTER THIS WAY
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
You should only get a vio if the person hipfired is a verifiable minority. Hipfiring whites should be allowed
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Gigaabout 10 years ago
Slowbro
here's what i don't get: laid
you and me both, buddy
Gigaabout 10 years ago
also says the same thing i did but people plus his post and not mine im SALTY
Gigaabout 10 years ago
Matt12 casually plusses his own post without realizing people can see who plussed a post
Matt12about 10 years ago
Hi Cody,

It depends on the situation.

Thanks.
5
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
To me gamethrowing is something intentional that you do with motives, like getting someone to win or stopping someone else from winning. Not even grudge gamethrow here

while the only motive of trolling is to get reported or to get a rise out of people, which is exactly what people who hipfire have in mind when they do it. Unless if it's grudge, then good for them.
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Gigaabout 10 years agoedited
vilden
WELL GIGA

THAT'S WHY IT SHOULD JUST BE TROLLING
your argument sucks because if it's both trolling and gamethrowing then the harsher violation is in fact always supposed to be given, also you can gt by trolling, in which case you should get gt, not trolling
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
hipfiring is undoubtedly trolling. there's absolutely no legitimate reason to shoot randomly as the sheriff or deputy. the reason it should be GT in competitive games is because they're clearly more serious
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ZeroFurrboneabout 10 years ago
There is no point to ask the public how Hipfire should be moderated when the moderators do not know what a proper hipfire is.
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
I mean come on, can you honestly tell me I deserve a GT vio for hipfiring that? He's dangerously stupid
exposeabout 10 years ago
When you guys are mafia and you're picking the night kill don't you sometimes just *feel* like someone is PR so you choose them based off of that instinct? You just know they're flipping mafia... you just KNOW.

That's how I feel when I have a gun in my hand that causes me to hipfire 2 seconds into the day.

I promise you I have won all of the games I've hipfired in.
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
Focusion: an unironic fusion of the words focus and fusion.
xxeroxabout 10 years ago
CODY instead of focusion on something stupid, wny not go and fking fix the role mods? There are cheaters runing around and no one is doing anything.
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
Both of those sound perfectly reasonable and responsible
Hibikiabout 10 years ago
imagine if someone joined a game to specifically shoot someone in comp lobby at day 1 start

imagine if someones first game they get a gun so they decide to shoot it cause the game tells them to
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Matt12about 10 years ago
apollo
Goodbar
Matt12
Goodbar
i think it should all be trolling. if someone hipfires to up another player then it's gamethrowing, because that falls under gamethrowing as it already is.
what the fuc k do you know
...things? i guess
+K
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
Hip firing can often be town sided depending on who it is you're shooting. For instance: if you're shooting xxerox or maymay before they effectively re*ard the town then it shouldn't be GTing
xxeroxabout 10 years agoedited
I do.

But why are we discussing this?

Hipfiring has always been a GT in ranked games :/

You can't say you have reads 10 seconds in the game and shoot, and get away from a vio :fp:
citeopmIabout 10 years ago
does anyone really care
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deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
vilden
grudge hipfiring/shooting/lynching is GT'ign and is very different

the topic is about hipfire
hipfiring is hipfiring

anytime I do it I am justified in doing so
vildenabout 10 years ago
grudge hipfiring/shooting/lynching is GT'ign and is very different

the topic is about hipfire
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
i would hipfire that face
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
Goodbar
Matt12
Goodbar
i think it should all be trolling. if someone hipfires to up another player then it's gamethrowing, because that falls under gamethrowing as it already is.
what the fuc k do you know
...things? i guess
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
vilden
Jimbei, explain why u switched from trolling to gt or im gonna lynch you
I'll report you for grudge lynching if you do so