new rule is bad

Burialover 10 years ago

https://epicmafia.com/game/4650359/review here is an example of mafia abusing the new rule to kill a clear, they were not in autolose.

UniversalStudiosover 10 years ago
Giga13
Alright since togepi and jeff are gone it's time for this to go back to how it was, thanks admins
You don't get to take this condescending tone after failing to comprehend meta abuse over 2 consecutive rounds.
UniversalStudiosover 10 years ago
Devante
it's towns job to stop the bad mafia, not mafia to play to help town stop them, the bad guys.

stop complaining about having one more unclear in the game, instead find the mafia. the rule isn't changing no matter how many threads with the same title you make
See this post is a symptom of allowing people to join games and afk until the game mechanics force a resolution. There's no reason to allow a broken mechanic (meteor) define how sheep afk in the game.

There's literally no setup in which mafia can not kill a PR over consecutive nights and have a favorable resolution, however you're allowing the excuse of them using the meteor to enable them kill a PR for free.
GuyFawkes85over 10 years ago
If you want to keep the new rule, make all the setups with doc that were made when the rule was different not playable in main

(among them, fancy pants too)

so that they can't be broken (like shown in the OP)

and create new setups that follow this rule.

Otherwise, reverse the rule to NORMALITY. It's just common sense, guys!
Giga13over 10 years ago
Alright since togepi and jeff are gone it's time for this to go back to how it was, thanks admins
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Endorphinsover 10 years ago
Yfw they have statistically unbalanced unanimous favourites for no logical reason other than letting devante and pranay by proxy convince them it was infact logical.

Remove meteor.
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deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
stock photos
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
its the doctors shiteating grin
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maymayover 10 years ago
what picture?
trolleyzover 10 years ago
LOL man that picture kills me now for some reason
Endorphinsover 10 years ago
The other point to be made is on this setup specifically the optimal orc play is to orc a townread. This ensures always a 50/50 end day. By changing that day three should in most cases be a no clear final day phase. Youve taken away the towns ability to play optimally and forced them into a statistically known disadvtange for no logical reason.
maymayover 10 years ago
Burial
many many setups on this website require the doctor to be able to stop confirmed town from dying.

if it is now against the rules to stop confirmed town from dying then you have broken the majority of serious setups
that part
Endorphinsover 10 years ago
We already had a good rule in place. Mafia can hit until meteor if autoloss for them. It worked well. Mods must just be tired of refunding because its such a hard job...
Burialover 10 years ago
many many setups on this website require the doctor to be able to stop confirmed town from dying.

if it is now against the rules to stop confirmed town from dying then you have broken the majority of serious setups
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
i think its time you guys swallow your pride and get rid of this dumb rule
Endorphinsover 10 years ago
YOU HAVE TAKEN AWAY THE DOCTORS POWER. THIS ROLE IS OBSOLETE NOW. WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ONE OF MAFIAS MOST IMPORTANT ROLES?

And why on earth are you listening to pranay when it comes to established game mechanics?
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Gigaover 10 years ago
53 signed vs the 8 or so players who made the decision. lol
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Gigaover 10 years ago
this is an abomination
Devanteover 10 years ago
i'm sure connor or pranay will be interesting in replying to you & saying the same thing, that being if town wants to stop mafia they can lynch mafia. mafia can play however they want considering their action on the meteor night is to kill, and they can kill, since killing continues the game and saving doesn't.
perekingover 10 years ago
telling players they're not allowed to hit the person they know will be saved on meteor is better than telling the players they're not allowed to save
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Devanteover 10 years ago
Peta
Wait a minute, is there now a rule dictating which players protective roles are allowed to save in a certain situation?

Hahahahahahahahaha.
agreed, because telling players they're allowed to save and ending the game is better than telling the player they're not allowed to save ad end the game.
Devanteover 10 years ago
quite frankly, if maymay disagrees with the new rule then I am more confident than ever that is infact the correct decision
trolleyzover 10 years ago
Hibiki
trolleyz
you want someone to die who isn't clear
the point is that the doctor doesn't get to choose who dies, because the doctor isn't the one with the kill power
pranay is saying this though: why does doc even want to save when the point of NLing is for the maf to kill and lessen the odds ("> you want someone to die, so why would you save?"). i'm telling him that sense of thinking is dumb - if theres a clear the doc/town doesn't want it to die in most cases
maymayover 10 years ago
Can I sign via alt?
deleteddeletedover 10 years ago
what is/was the new rule
Hibikiover 10 years ago
trolleyz
you want someone to die who isn't clear
the point is that the doctor doesn't get to choose who dies, because the doctor isn't the one with the kill power