It is an utter disgrace that Anonymous setups have been banned from comp. The unprofessional manner it has been dealt with, makes it even more shocking. Anonymous setups have been banned mid-round without an explanation? (They are not popular is not a reason btw).
I know for a fact that several mods and perhaps admins are not on board with this ban. Heck, Lucid himself has said that he has no problems with anonymous setups in comp. I can point to many rounds of the past where anonymous setups have been played with no issue (pre DUFF era.)
I worked bloody hard to trophy and I want to be allowed to comp the setups I choose. 3 of my setups were removed for a variety of made up reasons. This one is by far the most ridiculous. I want a full explanation of why anon setups are banned.
If your argument is solely against the recent surge of DUFFS setups , I wish to pose you a question. Is it our fault that weve won a lot of trophies recently and want to comp these setups? This is a joke.
Anon setups actually allow for a less biased comp game without the use of meta and ogi.
Please give me more than a one line response. I want the name of whoever decided this. Answer for yourself.
tl;dr either go the whole nine yards to implement effective security measures against 3rd party communication leading to stacked comp games, or just stay with the more open, casual current game design
while i agree with loreli, i dont think thats the main reason. there was only one or two rounds at most where anon setups were the dominant setup, and it was only one setup usually, with another non-anon setup being played equally as much. so yeah, i dont think this site has ever seen anything close to a serious anon-only tourney.
not to mention the anon functionality is v weak here. but thats another conversation, which has more to do with the overall competitive format and the way you join games. if you had matchmaking for comp (w/ no display during pregame and no identifying lobby tags/notifications at any time prior to game starting), we can say its a step closer to legitimate.
until then, you might as well stick with the current meta-heavy format
Anon setups are completely competitively viable, and were often used in comp setups all the way through 2012-2013. Some of these were played as *the main setup* in some rounds. (Anon mario SDS) The reason Anon stopped being common in comp is that Riddler found a bug where if you're talking at night it shows a bubble (Something that used to show when you talked) next to the anyone with the same name as what you're disguised as. All anon setups (There was 2 I believe) were removed from that round and banned from comp. This happened late 2013-early 2014. The bug was fixed late 2014 but anon never really got back into comp.
The reasons everyone has come up with for Anon not being comp viable is merely to justify their conditioned opinion that anon isn't comp viable. It's like if you ask someone why FT3 is banned. Barely anyone remembers the actual reason. They'll say something like fool being a role not allowed in ranked games which obviously doesn't make sense.
@Hedger Anyone who roleplays the name they're given is choosing to play poorly, that isn't an argument for anon setups to not be comped. Historically Anon setups provide a more balanced playing field than non-anon, the current group of players have just grown up with anon being taboo (due to the bug) and therefore exert that. That's all.
@Vilden The kk setup had similar instances. The people playing are actively choosing to troll - it's not the setups fault.
anon setups dont work properly because they're not implemented properly. two things are necessary: easy player labeling (e.g. colors / numbers / shapes) and implementation in all comp games. otherwise, yes, they're not taken seriously, partly due to confusion over keeping track of players, but also because the alternative is too familiar to break away from.
problem is you wont find enough people willing to take it seriously and actually try this in a full comp round, because guess what? this game isnt meant to be taken seriously, and even when we had a much bigger base of 'comp' players, there just wasnt a willingness to take it to that level of professionalism. people want to play with friends, and they want their site personality to affect in-game behavior. after all, that's the best way to establish the trophyrunner meta
watch out tho, he knows a CERTAIN person with a lot of power (lucid...) who he heard is okay with anon setups (and therefore a strong supporter of his cause). He might just shoot him a nasty dirty little email if you do..
anon games are horrible and should not be comped. Something like a Colours anon deck may be viable (but wouldn't be played really regardless), but when you just play a deck that has EM players, most of the time people care more about roleplaying what they're given and less about actually playing properly. Fine for red hearts but a joke for gold hearts.
Isn't that done every round LOL i've gone through like 20 rounds and most of them have 2 popular and the rest hardly played?? if john wants to put "dogs hit" set up let him, play the other set ups, trophy, and then make your own non dogs hit setup.
It wasn't Jeff who overturned it. He explicitly told me hes not OTing it. And I'll have you know there's at least 3 other mods who are fine with anon. I'm not one for naming them, that's their decision
A man by the name of lucid also is a strong supporter of my cause.
look john's got a point, he has every right to comp setups that no one will play
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You've picked a setup that all mods (except jeffrey) agree is not worthy for comp, and just like many other setups that have been removed by mod decision, it was swapped out for the version 99% of the playerbase enjoy playing and running on
Your argument is this: I win, I get to pick a dogshit setup
If the majority hates anon setups. Then by nature the majority of rounds shall be anon free. However the privilege that comes with winning a trophy is the choice of what you comp. If there is no more anon set ups for the next 50 rounds I won't complain , it just means those winners don't like anon
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mods were strongarmed i bet in flipping it back to the anon setup
