Round 289 Discussion

jackover 11 years ago

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Clairover 11 years agoedited
a gained ML is basically a game-winner, since you gain a clear as well. while statistically your doc save chances are low, being able to read who the mafia will save isn't too difficult (when you know they aren't targetting cop, i mean)
Natalieover 11 years agoedited
Connor
i'd argue that lynching day 1 after a doc save is optimal for town but i wouldn't trust a doctor that isn't me to go off-cop and i can't point that out as a non-doctor without alerting mafia to their chance to kill cop. and i can't do it as actual doctor without outing myself via meta. so NLing day 1 after a doc save/NK is my choice, but in a vacuum, it is sub-optimal
As awesome as getting an extra mislynch is, your chances of doc saving after lynching d1 on a doc save are what, 1/5? Even if you have scumreads on both mafia you're still 1/3, and the mafia might just hit you anyway. Doesn't feel worth the risk to me.
Clairover 11 years agoedited
Connor
NLing until day 3 gives mafia a chance to kill and remove the chance at a potential 2nd ML.
this was me expanding on why i gave two options (a and b) instead of just giving b.
Clairover 11 years agoedited
i'd argue that lynching day 1 after a doc save is optimal for town but i wouldn't trust a doctor that isn't me to go off-cop and i can't point that out as a non-doctor without alerting mafia to their chance to kill cop. and i can't do it as actual doctor without outing myself via meta. so NLing day 1 after a doc save/NK is my choice, but in a vacuum, it is sub-optimal
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Clairover 11 years agoedited
NLing until day 3 gives mafia a chance to kill and remove the chance at a potential 2nd ML.

town are well within the power to prevent the cop kill by meteor by just lynching at MYLO. yes, it's harder than 7 way, but the chance at a gained ML is worth it REGARDLESS of mafia's intent to kill the cop on the next night

playing odd numbers is better for mafia because there are more chances at killing the doctor and zero chance at giving away the ML
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
lol wats up
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Clairover 11 years ago
BiIIStickers
Connor
BiIIStickers
the argument you're making here is really weird because i think its explicitly grounded in the idea that you dont want me to kill BV

but unfortunately, im killing bv
no, i don't really care if you try and kill BV because it's unkillable with the right counter argument
then make it, because so far you've spouted irrelevant nonsense that still results in mafia's best interest being NKing into meteor
no i haven't you twat.

you argue: NK 3 nights so that they can kill cop via meteor.
i argue: either a) lynch on day 1 and give the doc a chance to gain a mislynch for town, or b) lynch on day 3 before the meteor and do the same, but with 3 reports
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Hello im here to to ruin the serious conversation with stupid posts
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deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Connor
BiIIStickers
the argument you're making here is really weird because i think its explicitly grounded in the idea that you dont want me to kill BV

but unfortunately, im killing bv
no, i don't really care if you try and kill BV because it's unkillable with the right counter argument
then make it, because so far you've spouted irrelevant nonsense that still results in mafia's best interest being NKing into meteor
Clairover 11 years ago
BiIIStickers
a saved blue n2 results in a doc claim and a doc death n3 and nets the town an extra report
the doctor being alive at LYLO is more valuable than the extra report
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
a saved blue n2 results in a doc claim and a doc death n3 and nets the town an extra report
Clairover 11 years ago
BiIIStickers
the argument you're making here is really weird because i think its explicitly grounded in the idea that you dont want me to kill BV

but unfortunately, im killing bv
no, i don't really care if you try and kill BV because it's unkillable with the right counter argument
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
At the end of the day, those mafias will get Trolling violations for deliberately antagonizing people via abusing the meteor, and as that bodge suits the vast majority of the site, everything will continue as normal.
Clairover 11 years ago
no one said anything about NKing n2.

a dead blue at LYLO is better than a clear blue at MYLO. they're both confirmed town but the dead blue's report alignment is revealed without the cop needing to check them
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
the argument you're making here is really weird because i think its explicitly grounded in the idea that you dont want me to kill BV

but unfortunately, im killing bv
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
NKing n2 after a d1 lynch is atrocious maf play
AdrenalineMimeover 11 years ago
ah yes, the meteor
Clairover 11 years ago
BiIIStickers
an n2 save in bv should result in a doc claim d2 regardless
a dead blue is better than a saved blue because a dead blue shows villager/miller
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
an n2 save in bv should result in a doc claim d2 regardless
Clairover 11 years agoedited
a blue death n2 is better than 2 reports are a doc death, or 2 reports, a doc death and a doc save
Clairover 11 years ago
BiIIStickers
Connor
BiIIStickers
Connor
actually, i take it all back. on day 1, after an NK, town should just lynch. it's optimal, really
in which case mafia plays as normal and gets themselves to mylo, which is an improvement on current bv meta for mafia
yeah, sure.

except that now, the doctor has incentive to WIFOM
doctor should have incentive to wifom on n2 of BV regardless
no. an n2 save is pretty much guaranteeing a doctor death
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Connor
BiIIStickers
Connor
actually, i take it all back. on day 1, after an NK, town should just lynch. it's optimal, really
in which case mafia plays as normal and gets themselves to mylo, which is an improvement on current bv meta for mafia
yeah, sure.

except that now, the doctor has incentive to WIFOM
doctor should have incentive to wifom on n2 of BV regardless
Clairover 11 years ago
BiIIStickers
Connor
actually, i take it all back. on day 1, after an NK, town should just lynch. it's optimal, really
in which case mafia plays as normal and gets themselves to mylo, which is an improvement on current bv meta for mafia
yeah, sure.

except that now, the doctor has incentive to WIFOM
Kartwheelover 11 years ago
I had told our cop to lynch one of his guilties. I feel like he was almost trolling this game.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Connor
actually, i take it all back. on day 1, after an NK, town should just lynch. it's optimal, really
in which case mafia plays as normal and gets themselves to mylo, which is an improvement on current bv meta for mafia