I have absolutely no idea why people tr him. I'm not even trying to meme or bring meta jokes in because I fos him but, majority of his posts are just pretty words decorated in important looking lines with barely anything that indicates something useful????????
I'd quote stuff but they're on odd pages and if not needed, I don't wanna dig through all the stuff again.
His reads on Pg 14 screamed ingenuity to me. I wouldn't have such an aggressive fos on him but I do not understand why there are people who tr him? If anything he's null who talks about mechanism here and there, pokes at people, gives pretty looking reads then stares into the sky.
I feel like lynching him would give us a lot of information especially with the stances people have on him.
I guess some people may think that implies I don't really fos him and just want him lynched for information but that's incorrect. His tone is pretentious to me and I've not seen him do anything which positively contributes to the game unlike what people are making him sound like he's doing.
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this is beyond a stupid argument
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day 1: 13 - 1 lynched, 1 dead day 2: 11 - 1 lynched, 2 dead day 3: 8 - 3 mafia + 1 extra vote, 4 town
why wouldnt i shoot night 2? when my double vote could force NL
not true. i've always shot the night when mafia can win the game, which is after incorrectly lynching on D3 (lylo). this makes the most sense to me for a 'surprise element'
i've even worked out what would happen if you shot a day earlier, to prove that town have 2 ML's and then get to vote on LYLO for a last attempt because mw was mistakenly believing mafia could end the game a day earlier
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Obviously elfen hasnt said much , but give him a moment to reread
I thought his and Pirate's blatant buddying for no apparent reason was strange at first but then it came to me that it could be related to their abilities.
Until I see otherwise, I wouldn't lynch him.
yeah we made it clear yesterday that our roles go hand in hand, like peanut butter and jelly.
we can confirm the other is town through this, and it would be too ridiculous to have painted this target on ourselves if we really were maf.
When I read mw, I tend to think of ate as one of his most redeeming qualities as town which helps me sort his alignment out in lobby games. I was startled when reading him because there was none of that lovely ate I'm accustomed to associate with him.
Naturally I had a presumption that he rolled Mafia however, as I read on his posts, I realised he said some things I wouldn't imagine Mafia saying.
@Arrogate
1) As Shady pointed out (which makes me feel validated lmao), Denial is using past/outside information to try to push town forward. I TR'd Denial D1 because he's taking a lot of attention on himself and trying to actually create reads/gather information, which mafia has no reason to do. 2) Just leave LP alone thx. She's just very clear town to me. 3) I think that in a game where mafia has a 10-3 disadvantage, giving them a one shot extra kill helps even things out, and double votes would be a way to secretly influence a lynch (although to hide it you'd need to be v careful about who you voted and when). I think it'd be an awesome maf role lol and would make yesterday make a lot more sense.
I also forgot to mention, I think TOSR is pretty towny as well.
This being one of the examples.
I realised that his change in tone may be due to the fact that this is a thread game and you're not as personally invested in a thread game than a lobby game, hence, your tone may sound more calculated.
When I thought of it like that, more of mw's actions resonated as town to me. I thought his and Pirate's blatant buddying for no apparent reason was strange at first but then it came to me that it could be related to their abilities.
i just think htennis is more blatantly scummy. when we threatened to lynch him he just kept screaming that me and mw are TEMPERED TEMPS, like he wanted to state the obvious for his maf buddies.
i do tr you though, so i am fine going in this direction for now. but htennis needs to go ASAP.
I don't really know how to describe his gameplay as one alignment, it's really mind-boggling. I keep racking my brain around to see if I'm missing something but this is the same conclusion I keep coming up with. Maybe it's due to lack of information or I'm just blind and not comprehending something simple.
He's done things that I read as both alignments.
So for Mafia: trolling at the beginning to seem lighthearted and ease in to the game, buddying with Happeh for seemingly no reason, being defensive when questioned by Pirate.
For town: His rationale when outing reads on several people and his general lines.
For someone like me who values lines and reads to compare mindsets, he rings close to what I see as town but some of his actions just hit right through a Mafion's house.
apologies for not participating very much, i’ve been lurking/responding but didn’t have time to compose an actual message
i’m actually gonna go completely opposite of carmen’s statement about interactions. Since this is quite different than normal mafia due to the fact that mafia can talk during the day, i think that it’s much more likely be trying to FORCE an interaction since they can decide how to respond to each other.
that being said, i do see a potential maf-maf interaction between ToSRox and Arrogate - but only a weak one. (edit: since writing this part i want to retract the TosRox/Arrogate team read since it really makes very little sense to bus this hard with only 3 mafias; however i still do think that mafia team will likely be forcing interactions today)
i can’t really make reads on lines based on what we have so far especially since mafia is going to pre-prepare their messages to leave as little as possible to go off of
but for now: likely at LEAST a mafia between arrogate/ToSRox, more likely ToSRox - ask me why i’ll explain but i think this post is long enough and a mafia in one of the tryhards writing long posts because i’m betting mafia decided to have at least one person trying to lead town (hypocritical i know i just wrong a long post but :/)
anyways for now...: VOTE TownOfSalemRox
I found this post a load of bs and long for the sake of being long. A lot of her reads rang to me in that way while her general lines teetered off to null world.
She could've passed off as null but if she clearly only had minimal reads, why wouldn't she vote someone during hammer period for the SAKE of getting reads? She could've even thrown a vote on Arrogate or Tos but didn't do that either.
That links back to my earlier point and I feel her gameplay actions align more with scum than town, albeit, it's not a hard fos because I want to see more from her.
She started off with a light tone as if she's not pressured which I found townie because there's 10 town prs and we had an ml d1. But then she developed an "I'm a sheep" tone, for example:
oOoO what r they... ok i will just sheep forg the person with day actions i guess
VOTE denial
It seemed like a refusal to take a stance for herself or stand in the crowd. Then the next page it seemed more like she was intimidated by Denial which is why she unvoted than actually think of her as town.
She developed into a reactive character with not much substance to offer
this reminds me where i subbed for someone and ended up getting a mafia role :(
no that'll be arachnid when she subs in for Elfen ;)
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day 1 - 13 1 lynched 1 die
day 2 11 1 lynched 1 die
day 3 9 1 lynched 2 die
day 4 6 alive, 3 maf = loss
i mean... you do include it but you include it after day 3 which makes no mafialoigical sense when the game could end earlier
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I'VE READ IT ALL AND JERIHeogfhroierh-
This is a mess. There's a lot of things to process in my head rn like, the moment I see something scummy and think I'm onto something, I flip to next page and see something that is townie so I'm just like AAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
Okay so my brain is still reeling but I do have a lot I'm thinking of so I'm just gonna pray I sound coherent. I'm going to out my reads in the order the list on the side is so I don't mix up anyone or forget them.
boy gosh
this reminds me where i subbed for someone and ended up getting a mafia role :(
This is a mess. There's a lot of things to process in my head rn like, the moment I see something scummy and think I'm onto something, I flip to next page and see something that is townie so I'm just like AAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
Okay so my brain is still reeling but I do have a lot I'm thinking of so I'm just gonna pray I sound coherent. I'm going to out my reads in the order the list on the side is so I don't mix up anyone or forget them.
Hiand welcome spadez0 why is she being voted off already i reread everything and denial is hardpushing happeh
TO CLARIFY:
I received an exact report of the ROLES HAPPEH HAS, and so will LIKELY BE DYING AT NIGHT TODAY SO MAFIA CAN LIMIT MY ACTION. I've already detailed what and how I'm going to use my action in a previous post, and I still don't tr htennis any more than I have.
When did I ever miscalculate your shot? I've always added the two shot thing the night it causes town to lose
I never cared about why you outed it late, that's why theres a meh whatever next to that point because it was a nonissue. I was getting on you for the whole "what is a tarot??? Ahhhhhoh attitude
So if theres anything else you feel, let me know. Either way it's my prerogative to try to influence town to lynch you, so I wouldn't mind trying to lie to do so anyways, but there actually has not been a case of me leaving info out to try to get you lynched