Introduction
As of now, most (if not all moderators) provide no reason at all when they violate or no-violate a player.
Why should this be changed?
It is quite obvious what power the moderators is given by basically letting them do what they want without even giving an explanation why they took a certain measurement. Namely:
Favor friends and moderators
Disadvantage people they do not like
Manipulate the competitive play
What are possible disadvantages?
The only disadvantage I found so far is that mods have to put greater effort into dealing with reports. And with "greater" I mean appending one (!) more sentence that explains why one has taken that measurement. It shouldn't be much of an issue because a moderator clearly knows why they violate a player, they just need to write down their thoughts about it :)
Can we, vanilla users, change anything about it?
Perhaps. If there is a wide range of players who would wish to apply such a change to moderating rules, they might as well think about doing so. For this purpose, I have created a little poll in which you can have your voice about this matter.
~ Your one and only MarcellDavis
Poll
Enforce providing reasons when giving a violation or a NV?
I havent read the entire thread, but here's my two cents.
I'm pretty sure I always commented on at least my no vios. Not so much when I was giving a vio if I felt the person who made the report stated the reason anyway. But I would still comment on those if I felt the need to reaffirm that a certain action is against the rules or clarify something.
But on no vio's, they're especially important, because you need to counter whatever argument the reporter is making. And the rules are pretty black and white, so it's not exactly hard. As someone else said, you already spent the entire time investigating the report, you can write half a sentence.
I don't imagine anyone that's a mod on em is a slow typer.
and it helps if you ever need to look back at a report because you can easily read what your original opinion was.
someone in this thread said commenting on reports went away to save time when report numbers skyrocketed. Kinda makes me think what else they cut to save time. Lends a little credence to the theory that mods might not even read the game if they trust the reporter or dislike the reportee. Forcing mods to comment on reports could help make sure the mod actually reads the game.
make me a mod and I would be happy to type reasons. I am sure many people would be willing to give reasons, as it improves the community. you already spend the time to make a verdict so why not spend a minute to tell us why?
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My post was actually directed to you, since you always say that one should rather make an appeal report than a moderator providing a reason for his NV or V. Sad thing is you didn't even react to my conclusion in this post. Typical mod-circle-jerker.
That's not particularly true. Imagine you are handling a report and decide to NV it. The time consuming work, i.e. DETERMINING THAT THIS REPORT SHOULD BE A NV, is already done by you. You basically just summarize the reason for your decision in one single sentence, e.g. "Player XYZ did not let fake cop slip away undetected on purpose."
That's f*cking it. Typing this took me like 10 seconds...
>present an idea openly and ask for people's opinions on it >some people disagree >call them pathetic because they dared to express the incorrect opinion
Some moderators used to do this, but when the number of reports began to skyrocket and around the time Riotkiller became admin circa 2013, the rules for reporting someone came into play (i.e. You couldn't just file a report saying 'GT'--this was done also in an attempt to prevent postgame grudge/salt-reporting). In order to save time on the sheer number of reports there were, some of the moderators who would type out reasoning for reports which resulted in no violation stopped providing it every time.
While there are less reports now, it seems silly to make moderators explain why they give no violation on every report that results in a no violation because it just makes them spend extra time for no reason. A few people at most will PM a mod asking why they gave no violation, and instead of typing reasoning for dozens of NVd reports, they only need type the reasoning for the few people who PMd them.
If you have a question about any report outcome, you should PM the mod who handled it. Then if you disagree still, you are welcome to file an appeal.
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