Mod Moderation System

ReverseNinthMushroomover 9 years ago

There needs to be a system in place that would allow mods to be properly measured in there ability to handle reports fairly and properly. I very much doubt that there is some one who consistently looks over every report and evaluates if mods are making the correct verdicts.

Why not implement a way to allow the community to "vote" on the end report verdicts and let the players decide if they believe the decision is fair or not. This would prevent any sort of mod abuse and allows the people who run the site an easy way to evaluate wether or not the mods are doing there job well. This also would be helpful for mods in the appeal process, as mods would be able to read the results and if the overwhelming majority of people believe the verdict given was incorrect, they know that the report needs to be reassessed.

One possible way to do this would be to implement a poll after a report decision has been made. Mods would still have the ultimate power in the final decision, but at least this way we give the community an easy route to help improve and monitor the site.

Poll
Do you believe this is good idea?
No69%37
Yes30%16
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
What issues are being forced ?
Rutabover 9 years ago
ReverseNinthMushroom
Rutab
Mushroom I just want you to know that the very same community you're entrusting to evaluate our verdicts and actions has just filed two reports in a row for game violations occurring during two different unranked mafia games

One is for "wanting to die" and the other is GRS, in two different unranked games
Not even gona look, what are the scores of the people filing the report?
About 2500 and 7000

I am also not forcing issues. I don't think you truly understand the culture of this website
ReverseNinthMushroomover 9 years ago
See what i mean by ur forcing issues.
ReverseNinthMushroomover 9 years ago
Rutab
Mushroom I just want you to know that the very same community you're entrusting to evaluate our verdicts and actions has just filed two reports in a row for game violations occurring during two different unranked mafia games

One is for "wanting to die" and the other is GRS, in two different unranked games
Not even gona look, what are the scores of the people filing the report?
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
And everyone will abuse it to help themselves and their friends
ReverseNinthMushroomover 9 years ago
Venus
This will make things worse and make more work for the mods
You've stated this and I've answered this multiple times. You're like a broken record more mods = less time needed with the ability to properly monitor mods you can easily manage more.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
here's what would happen.

For the first few weeks everyone will use to troll the mods
Everyone will get bored and no one will vote
Rutabover 9 years ago
ReverseNinthMushroom
Rutab
ReverseNinthMushroom
Rutab
ReverseNinthMushroom
Venus
there isn't any point in doing that because this isn't ever going to happen.
Are you saying theres no point in trying to address and fix an issue that you see a problem with, even if people disagree with you.
No, but there are lots of issues with this particular suggestion trying to address an and fix an issue that you see a problem with
Ive answered everyone one of your concerns I believe quite well.
Disagree
Majority of your critiques are forced worse case scenario type things.
No, they're not. They are easily prevalent and major concerns msot likely to happen. You are too optimistic about the community's ability to behave
Rutabover 9 years ago
Mushroom I just want you to know that the very same community you're entrusting to evaluate our verdicts and actions has just filed two reports in a row for game violations occurring during two different unranked mafia games

One is for "wanting to die" and the other is GRS, in two different unranked games
ReverseNinthMushroomover 9 years ago
Rutab
ReverseNinthMushroom
Rutab
ReverseNinthMushroom
Venus
there isn't any point in doing that because this isn't ever going to happen.
Are you saying theres no point in trying to address and fix an issue that you see a problem with, even if people disagree with you.
No, but there are lots of issues with this particular suggestion trying to address an and fix an issue that you see a problem with
Ive answered everyone one of your concerns I believe quite well.
Disagree
Majority of your critiques are forced worse case scenario type things.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
This will make things worse and make more work for the mods
ReverseNinthMushroomover 9 years ago
Venus
I don't see a problem with how it is currently done. Appeal system and forums fix most things.
The majority of issues are handled approperatly this is for the select few that aren't this system isn't as intrusive as you guys are making it out to be once again it should only be 2-10% of reports
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
ReverseNinthMushroom
Rutab
ReverseNinthMushroom
Venus
there isn't any point in doing that because this isn't ever going to happen.
Are you saying theres no point in trying to address and fix an issue that you see a problem with, even if people disagree with you.
No, but there are lots of issues with this particular suggestion trying to address an and fix an issue that you see a problem with
Ive answered everyone one of your concerns I believe quite well.
not at all
Rutabover 9 years ago
ReverseNinthMushroom
Rutab
ReverseNinthMushroom
Venus
there isn't any point in doing that because this isn't ever going to happen.
Are you saying theres no point in trying to address and fix an issue that you see a problem with, even if people disagree with you.
No, but there are lots of issues with this particular suggestion trying to address an and fix an issue that you see a problem with
Ive answered everyone one of your concerns I believe quite well.
Disagree
ReverseNinthMushroomover 9 years ago
Rutab
ReverseNinthMushroom
Venus
there isn't any point in doing that because this isn't ever going to happen.
Are you saying theres no point in trying to address and fix an issue that you see a problem with, even if people disagree with you.
No, but there are lots of issues with this particular suggestion trying to address an and fix an issue that you see a problem with
Ive answered everyone one of your concerns I believe quite well.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
I don't see a problem with how it is currently done. Appeal system and forums fix most things.
ReverseNinthMushroomover 9 years ago
Hugo
Next we will build a moderation team for moderating the mods who moderate the mods of epicmafia.
You understand how a democratic system works right?
Rutabover 9 years ago
ReverseNinthMushroom
Venus
there isn't any point in doing that because this isn't ever going to happen.
Are you saying theres no point in trying to address and fix an issue that you see a problem with, even if people disagree with you.
No, but there are lots of issues with this particular suggestion trying to address an and fix an issue that you see a problem with
ReverseNinthMushroomover 9 years ago
Venus
there isn't any point in doing that because this isn't ever going to happen.
Are you saying theres no point in trying to address and fix an issue that you see a problem with, even if people disagree with you.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
Next we will build a moderation team for moderating the mods who moderate the mods of epicmafia.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
It's only going to take them 17 hours a day
Stiffyover 9 years ago
It's Christmas don't you have any compassion for your fellow man?????
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
Look stiffy, the role mods can stop that from happening by stalking people's friends and alts!!!

Because they aren't doing enough. Put them to work.
Stiffyover 9 years agoedited
The fact of the matter is that once you designate people as mods they need to have a good understanding of the rules and the vios, the general player base does not. The mods are also expected to be held accountable for their actions and put actual thought and effort into reports, whereas the general player base could just vote however they like; not even read a game in question; vote so their friend doesn't get a vio; use alts to skew the poll; or just troll the polls in general cause they can do whatever they want.

Your idea doesn't work in any capacity. The vast majority of reports don't even get appealed because people are aware of how they broke the rules and just accept where they messed up.

I think the amount of people who would care enough to take the polls seriously are the people who already read and comment on reports as it is now.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
there isn't any point in doing that because this isn't ever going to happen.
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