There needs to be a system in place that would allow mods to be properly measured in there ability to handle reports fairly and properly. I very much doubt that there is some one who consistently looks over every report and evaluates if mods are making the correct verdicts.
Why not implement a way to allow the community to "vote" on the end report verdicts and let the players decide if they believe the decision is fair or not. This would prevent any sort of mod abuse and allows the people who run the site an easy way to evaluate wether or not the mods are doing there job well. This also would be helpful for mods in the appeal process, as mods would be able to read the results and if the overwhelming majority of people believe the verdict given was incorrect, they know that the report needs to be reassessed.
One possible way to do this would be to implement a poll after a report decision has been made. Mods would still have the ultimate power in the final decision, but at least this way we give the community an easy route to help improve and monitor the site.
he said 1 IN 10 reports arent handled properly any way you look at it thats 10% of reports that are wrong.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
I don"t care if theres a poll or not, you guys just haven't given any actual valid information as to why it would fail, as your entire argument relies on the fact of "the community cant handle it" which is an opinionated statement and unless you provide real evidence as to why the entire community not just a few select people couldn't handle it is baseless.
All I said was there needs to be some sort of way that we can hold mods accountable, I simply offered 1 suggestion.
Honestly the only problem w/ this system is how bias communities can be. Chances are that if this system ever became a thing, there'll be at least one person that community is against and will blindly vote against. The only way I could really see this working is if there was some type of honor system to help prevent people from saying 'this deserves a vio' then later on for the same report saying 'no vio needed' just because it's a person they don't like.
I showed two examples of proof firstly he admitted to 10% of verdicts being wrong, then he backtracked and made up an excuse instead of admitting fault, hes a mod so hes a person who would look at ur reports.
He literally didn't "admit 10% of verdicts are wrong", for starters he was talking about AFTER a mistake was made, maybe 10% of the time it's not fixed. So 99% of reports are mistake-free. Of that 1% maybe 10% (Rutab's generous number) are not fixed. That's not 10% of reports being wrong. That's 0.1% of reports that went wrong not being fixed.
Reverse you need to take a break. The poor horse is ground meat at this point, please stop beating it.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
ok but i want links, i can look at the reports.
otherwise i can say you killed michael jackson without proof
I showed two examples of proof firstly he admitted to 10% of verdicts being wrong, then he backtracked and made up an excuse instead of admitting fault, hes a mod so hes a person who would look at ur reports.
deleteddeletedover 9 years agoedited
aight Im out. this is where you slowly realize that an argument only exists if there is someone to argue against. Have fun as this thread slowly creeps into obscurity. Im sure youll be back next week though with some user moderation idea a la what youtube recently did.
So hes making up numbers to try and prove his point, and then backtracks trying to cover his instead of admitting his fault. Kind of what happens during reports...
You don't have any solid examplea of continuous wrong verdicts
We all make mistakes only sometimes and 90% of the time they're fixed
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
show me a complaint thread where nothing was done, where the mod unequivocally gave the wrong verdict.
That should be pretty easy to do based off the tone of this thread
A moderator already acknowledged that 10% of verdicts are wrong, why should he have to go through any extra effort when the conclusion has already been made.
dude, you have been dumb this entire thread, but I enjoyed arguing with you because at least youre passionate and coming from a place of honesty.
Dont mix dumb with pedantic though, that's not fun to argue with.
I pulled that number out of my butt
And that "10%" is why the appeal system is in place
show me a complaint thread where nothing was done, where the mod unequivocally gave the wrong verdict.
That should be pretty easy to do based off the tone of this thread
A moderator already acknowledged that 10% of verdicts are wrong, why should he have to go through any extra effort when the conclusion has already been made.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
show me a complaint thread where nothing was done, where the mod unequivocally gave the wrong verdict.
That should be pretty easy to do based off the tone of this thread
How can you prove that? you don't have a system in place that accurately moderates mods performance, so now you're just making baseless claims again.
Your claims are as baseless as mine then...
No there not because you've already admitted that 10% are not properly handled.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
you don't need any examples of continous wrong verdicts, we all know they happen, lets not play devils advocate to everything
that's why there is an appeal system, and if that fails, a complaint subsection of the forum so you can engage the community with your greivances. Or you can pm the admin/a mod you think has a better grasp on the rules personally
nothing ever happens as a result of the complaint section, people just get trolled, ive yet to see any mod held accountable for anything
you don't need any examples of continous wrong verdicts, we all know they happen, lets not play devils advocate to everything
that's why there is an appeal system, and if that fails, a complaint subsection of the forum so you can engage the community with your greivances. Or you can pm the admin/a mod you think has a better grasp on the rules personally
Mods have no obligation to do anything there is no accountability.... your word against theres, they have all the power.