I have a question, a rather noob question, so feel free to insult my intelligence. It is, however, a rhetorical question, given that I write it with the presumption that this practice is unfair :
Why is it ok for players (especially experienced players, let's call them Y) to say "I would never kill X" in a game?
This meta, which has nothing to do with the current game assumes that players in the game are aware of some implicit social capital that has been built over many months (if not years) between X and Y.
In the scenario that this is true, it puts new players (not Y) at an undue dis-advantage. As maf, if they kill X without knowledge of past relationships, they are automatically clearing some players in the table who meta-clear themselves instantly.
I do not propose that this is illegal, but rather that it shouldn't be used by experienced players as it gives them an unfair advantage. I realize this is a slippery slope argument, but the lines have to be drawn somewhere.
there are people that literally believe meta is either voodoo or entire BS though. its important to note that self stated kill meta does not reflect the usefulness or uselessness of meta
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
From my last 'promises' thread I learned that it's better to not believe any meta. Although you think it's unfair, it should only be banned if done in multiple games OR if used to clear a big number of players in a table.
you are literally throwing away your odds of winning the game by not taking meta into consideration. do not confuse meta with things that people say they would or wouldnt do, that is self meta. it can also be taken into consideration but much less reliably. know your enemy
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
anon decks is everyone trying to figure out who's who
Player D and Player B immediately get town reads on each other because Player B silently acknowledges that Player D would probably have a similar reason not to kill Player A.
Player C at this point has a very hard time in trying to get involved in the game.
I just think it's nonsense to allow that sort of play to continue, but whatever.
Saying this thing in every game will increase your winrate I guess.
I remember DLYG every game I survive I say "I'm not yakked this time" and later "Y and Z didn't yak me". It helped a lot especially when I felt myself obvious scum and still survived for mafia win.
like any other form of OGI, it isnt IF it is always true.
the players that believe it anyways, when it isnt always true... as a form of favoritism. that is the grey area that makes this practice so intolerable
Why yes this is a problem, and yes sometimes I will hard tunnel a person that does this...you kinda learn which ones are fake.
Sometimes you know for a fact a meta is wrong, and can use it against them. Usually a person who repeats it in the middle of day 1 is scum. Usually one who does it in the beginning as filler but never mentions it again is town.
Don't take it like a statement, but as filler or wifom. Which ever one it is up to how you read it.
