Calling it Quits

Renaldoabout 11 years ago

Alright people of Epicmafia. It's been a long time since I've made a serious macro-thread outlining my thoughts. I've really mellowed out about epicmafia since departing as admin, only to get super mad when talking about setups that I don't like, because nothing makes me more upset than bad setups. Either way, this is my first serious thread of 2015. Remember 2014? Good times. In the words of a recently banned user "Twas a blast."

I haven't been on the site all that much recently, at least not much since Vancy stepped down. Well, at least not in the sense of being involved in the game of policy and shady dealings that goes on behind the scenes. However, one thing I've noticed though is that although the competition still puts up pretty solid numbers, there seems to be a general malaise spread throughout the community. I can't help but feel the site is spiraling downhill. Just looking through the past 10 rounds, over half of them had some sort of mega cheating investigation, trophy winners who got thrown for, or outright cheating. It's kind of shocking that anyone bothers to run anymore when there is such a high volume of cheating, especially when trophies are valued at less than the dollar during the 2008 crash. It just seems kinda silly. There's so much effort that goes into the moderation of gold heart games to keep them legitimate, while there is a ton of effort poured into making them illegitimate as well. All for what, though?

So I really, seriously want to pose this question: Do you think it's time for the competition to stop?

Now before you throw Molotov cocktails at your computer screen, just hear me out. Let's go on a journey together.

Imagine a world on epicmafia without a competition. Mods would last longer since they wouldn't get burned out from long investigations. No one could troll rounds, since there are no rounds to troll. Maybe the comp lobby could see a revival, for those who are into that sort of lobby gentrification. Not to mention, cheaters would have no reason to cheat - there's no "trophy" to be gained from cheating in red hearts, unless you just like upsetting people. Imagine a world where every game of mafia is casual mafia, you can play any setup you want at any time, without having to rely on some douchecanoe to comp something playable, and double point Jan becomes the stage that all mafia players wish to be stars on? This is a world I think we should live in. I would know, I have sources.

I know this is pretty radical, but I have a solution for those of you who still really like comp on the site.

We could replace the competition with chess: https://epicmafia.com/game/4102695?password=46139b0b16d7696468a818ef81ab82a93691f7d5

Poll
Honestly, tbh, I'm being honest.
Free Gallis Hunter44%23
Kill Comp19%10
Nuke the forums instead13%7
bwaaa bwaaa bwaaaa9%5
thanks for looking out for the little guy7%4
Don't Kill Comp5%3
Renaldoabout 11 years ago
I'd personally be interested what falls between the "appleofmyeye to justrec" spectrum. Sounds like a good thread waiting to happen.
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Wildfireabout 11 years ago
Renaldo
Wildfire
I'm not sure how to feel that my alt is mistaken for a retti account. mist on the other hand was widely mistaken for a kino account before it got outed.
i don't know how, kino barely posted on the forums. four letter anime girl accounts throw people off, I guess.
Well actually it was people in Sandbox who all thought I was kino. The guesses on the forums ranged from appleofmyeye to justrec and everything in between.
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Orly
anyway, this is bound to happen eventually. the whole competition is a farce. trying to compete in this game is a really, really bad way to play it. it warps the game into something that it isn't designed to be (at least not with the current technical limitations of the site)
Wrong.
Renaldoabout 11 years ago
Wildfire
I'm not sure how to feel that my alt is mistaken for a retti account. mist on the other hand was widely mistaken for a kino account before it got outed.
i don't know how, kino barely posted on the forums. four letter anime girl accounts throw people off, I guess.
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Satanabout 11 years ago
Renaldo
Satan
remod thebro....
Orlyabout 11 years ago
oh. well that answers that
Wildfireabout 11 years ago
Right here dude.
Renaldoabout 11 years ago
Wildfire
music music music music music music
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deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
SuperNova
Devante
SuperNova
Don't remove my trophies please. :'( But I agree with the competition once in a month, with small gifts... Like MafiaGod does. But 1500 points aren't enough to play comp because if you're a main you don't know much about mechanics and you're likely a FP player, and if it's an alt you should focus on your main in try harder on it. 3000 points would be better but it would be even better if the two days before the round starts we can only play comped setups on Red hearts so people have to play this.
it took u like 5 years to get 2 trophies, u might aswell lose them and try again after the trophies are rest since it'll be slightly less embarrassing the second time around i'm sure
LMAO, it has been two years and a half I'm here not 5. I started comp two years ago (I had not played comp the 6 first months) just before my 3 months break. Then I came back late in 2013. I'm not gonna lie I tried many times to trophy, once I failed because Pacifist N1'd me to troll me when I need to win my two last games. Spring 2014 I wasn't at Home and was really bored about EM so I played without trying hard. PandaClaus told me to leave EM and come back later thus I did. You can Check I used to play 70-80% of my golden hearts per round so obv I had no chance to run. Now you know it all but this is funny how people were mocking me because I had no trophy, I just won two trophies in a month so leave me alone now. I don't even want trophies to show how good I am, I still think that means nothing but it looks good on my profile... So kiss.
OK.
Orlyabout 11 years ago
why did mist resign? she was actually good
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Wildfireabout 11 years ago
Oh dude I can forum post on this account now whoa. Aces. I thought I was still tabbed onto mist.
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Wildfireabout 11 years agoedited
I'm not sure how to feel that my alt is mistaken for a retti account. mist on the other hand was widely mistaken for a kino account before it got outed.
Renaldoabout 11 years ago
Satan
remod thebro....
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Satanabout 11 years ago
demod jana....
Renaldoabout 11 years ago
frickin jana
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Satanabout 11 years ago
yeah, except jana frickin ruins it every time in poker
Renaldoabout 11 years ago
Satan
Renaldo
Satan
Renaldo
not gonna lie I thought wildfire was a retti account when i saw it on the mod page.
its me actually
not enough ocean imo
well it is a secret acc so like why would i do that????
because i think you're the type of dude who makes a secret alt and then looks forward to it being revealed. "haha, I was Stanley all along!"
Satanabout 11 years ago
Renaldo
Satan
Renaldo
not gonna lie I thought wildfire was a retti account when i saw it on the mod page.
its me actually
not enough ocean imo
well it is a secret acc so like why would i do that????
Orlyabout 11 years agoedited
woah woah. why did someone silently delete my post?

anyway, this is bound to happen eventually. the whole competition is a farce. trying to compete in this game is a really, really bad way to play it. it warps the game into something that it isn't designed to be (at least not with the current technical limitations of the site)
Renaldoabout 11 years ago
Satan
Renaldo
not gonna lie I thought wildfire was a retti account when i saw it on the mod page.
its me actually
not enough ocean imo
Satanabout 11 years ago
Renaldo
not gonna lie I thought wildfire was a retti account when i saw it on the mod page.
its me actually
Renaldoabout 11 years ago
not gonna lie I thought wildfire was a retti account when i saw it on the mod page.
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Satanabout 11 years ago
it looks fun
deleteddeletedabout 11 years ago
Renaldo
oh wait, mist got archacked? Arcbell's mod KO count would make sonseray blush.
On the upside, I had a lot of fun making myself a new unlinked alt: https://epicmafia.com/user/480101#/
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Renaldoabout 11 years ago
oh wait, mist got archacked? Arcbell's mod KO count would make sonseray blush.
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