Round 289 Discussion

jackover 11 years ago

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deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
so a game just broke where's my refund :^)
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UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
It literally makes no sense how ingrained "defending bad play from bad townies" is in people that play this game.
UniversalStudiosover 11 years ago
Steven
animegayboy69
it stands for expected value, and it's a useful way to try to gauge the balance of basic setups

in practice there are things that throw it off but it's better than throwing crap at the wall and assuming it'll work out, "EM makes tends to balance games a lot more than first glance" is incomprehensible
What's the EV for SDS?

And I wasn't saying that as some kind if law but general observation. I'm not saying all setups will magically turn 60/60 but definitely pure scum hunts should be a bit more balanced than first glance, like 1-2%
No they shouldn't. If the average player didn't completely suck as villager, we'd literally have to give mafia an advantage in pr setups because prs would always be able to edge out mafia. You people will never actually be able to comprehend this because you gave up on DLYV for follow the clear setups.
Giga13over 11 years agoedited
BiIIStickers
the EV of a&d is extremely townsided its pretty funny
if only prs claimed pr day 1...

it would make a difference
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Why does everything keep getting comped and decomped

mods just pause the round or reset it until you get everything straight
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
the EV of a&d is extremely townsided its pretty funny
animegayboy69over 11 years agoedited
Hibiki
EV doesn't really apply with investigative roles
yeah, it can only really be calculated for extremely simple setups. too many variables to account for in SDS, you could maybe sim it but who the hell has time to do that

e: and even then a sim would assume ideal play in all instances which doesn't really happen
Aesopover 11 years ago
https://epicmafia.com/setup/1184494 is absolutely terrible
Hibikiover 11 years ago
the point payout will suck for town though
Natalieover 11 years ago
https://epicmafia.com/setup/1184494

mods this setup is completely untested how can you allow this honestly pls decomp immediately
Hibikiover 11 years ago
EV doesn't really apply with investigative roles
Stevenover 11 years agoedited
animegayboy69
it stands for expected value, and it's a useful way to try to gauge the balance of basic setups

in practice there are things that throw it off but it's better than throwing crap at the wall and assuming it'll work out, "EM makes tends to balance games a lot more than first glance" is incomprehensible
What's the EV for SDS?

And I wasn't saying that as some kind if law but general observation. I'm not saying all setups will magically turn 60/60 but definitely pure scum hunts should be a bit more balanced than first glance, like 1-2%
Hibikiover 11 years ago
... all right, i'm lost
animegayboy69over 11 years ago
i wasn't being sarcastic
Hibikiover 11 years ago
no. you presented it as a counter-point. the exclamation point sarcasm would be lost on many, so i had to refute it regardless of your intent
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
https://epicmafia.com/game/3911304
animegayboy69over 11 years ago
that's literally what i just said, thanks
Hibikiover 11 years ago
stbs is an exception
animegayboy69over 11 years ago
not actually true, stbs is more townsided than you'd expect from random chance!
Hibikiover 11 years ago
EM leans scumsided always
animegayboy69over 11 years ago
it stands for expected value, and it's a useful way to try to gauge the balance of basic setups

in practice there are things that throw it off but it's better than throwing crap at the wall and assuming it'll work out, "EM makes tends to balance games a lot more than first glance" is incomprehensible
Stevenover 11 years agoedited
Anime what does EV stand for? I'm assuming it has something to do with random chance: if so, I wouldn't rely on that too much. EM makes tends to balance games a lot more than first glance
animegayboy69over 11 years ago
66% scum EV so i guess maybe i'm jumping to conclusions, but nightless tends to favor town more than the raw numbers due to townreads
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
animegayboy69
4v2 nightless being decomped is an absolute joke, though
What the hell?
animegayboy69over 11 years ago
4v2 nightless being decomped is an absolute joke, though