Improving Round Diversity

thebrontosaurusover 11 years ago

Alright so the 'banning guns' thread gave me an idea and I'd like to make a separate thread outlinining my thoughts and see if it's something the competitive community would be interested in pursuing.

Current System

  • A setup can only be comped once every 3 rounds
  • Variants are at mod discretion on a case-by-case basis

Proposed Changes

  • A setup can only be comped once every 5 rounds
  • Established variants kept on a running list (that will be public); new variants looked at by mods on a case-by-case basis

Goals

  • Improve diversity: This would mean that you'd only see certain setups at minimum every 50 days or 2 months or so (assuming ~10 day rounds). At minimum, you would see 30 different setups before seeing the same one comped again, allowing for a greater variety of setups to get exposure and giving people an opportunity to run on setups they like that may be less popular.
  • Tighten up what constitutes as a variant: makes things more objective and less on what the current admin/mod team thinks. This way there won't be as much debate over what is a variant or not the day of the round, it'll be pre-established and known, so people will know what they can and cannot comp

Please discuss. I'd also like to hear what the current mods think of this since they're the ones who will be enforcing this.

Petition
I could ship this
8 signed
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I agree with the OP
Poll
Do you like this idea?
Yes46%12
No38%10
Yes, but with some changes11%3
I don't really care3%1
Sidekickover 11 years ago
Lashka
Mods don't impose the setup rules they already have (see: A&R). Why add more for them to impose!?
as perviously noted i asked moderator jackhammer's permission to comp the variant
Jalebover 11 years ago
Sidekick
alise
comp fancypants
request noted and will be carried out on your behalf next time i trophy
Classic has been banned from being comped
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Mods don't impose the setup rules they already have (see: A&R). Why add more for them to impose!?
blankover 11 years ago
Fancypants is the greatest scumhunting setup ever. Good for competitive mafia.

by the way I think the current system is ok
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Simsover 11 years ago
mods shouldn't do that
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
anyone from the single lobby days remembers when lucid used to impose loose setup requirements each round like "one setup must have a fool" or "one setup has to be day start." mods should do that
Sidekickover 11 years ago
alise
comp fancypants
request noted and will be carried out on your behalf next time i trophy
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Nietzscheover 11 years ago
Ban fancy pants = Panaceum to all problems with Epicmafia
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blankover 11 years ago
comp fancypants
Sidekickover 11 years ago
animegayboy69
in order to improve round diversity, we need more black & hispanic setups
racist against asians
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
That's subjective
Jalebover 11 years ago
Mine
It involves a gun, therefore should be category placed into that group.
They actually have to scum hunt though
IAmNotABCover 11 years ago
I think we should be able to comp whatever we want :P And mods should not change what we want :)
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
It involves a gun, therefore should be category placed into that group.
IAmNotABCover 11 years ago
Thebronto, why you never did this as an admin, but you are giving it for a discussion now :)
Jalebover 11 years ago
Mine
thebrontosaurus
yeah even if the 3rd round rule stays, I'd like to see a list of what's considered a variant so it isn't always a judgment call.
Like you could have A&D (if unblacklisted) + variants + HI + FJ2 etc. all restricted to every 3 rounds.
I would say HI is different
Jalebover 11 years ago
Didn't Connor make a list of these already?
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
thebrontosaurus
yeah even if the 3rd round rule stays, I'd like to see a list of what's considered a variant so it isn't always a judgment call.
Like you could have A&D (if unblacklisted) + variants + HI + FJ2 etc. all restricted to every 3 rounds.
Jalebover 11 years ago
thebrontosaurus
Jaleb
Can we consider FJ2 = A&D? Same with VDLI=WWtW?
those setups aren't really variants of each other though.
They play exactly the same. Sheriff n1'd=gs hooked. Watcher an unconfirmed bp
thebrontosaurusover 11 years ago
yeah even if the 3rd round rule stays, I'd like to see a list of what's considered a variant so it isn't always a judgment call.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Also yeah the 3 rule is OK as long as variants are actually policed and banned by the moderators. ref.: A&R
Simsover 11 years ago
i don't see any problem with the system we have now. i also think 5 rounds is too long
animegayboy69over 11 years ago
in order to improve round diversity, we need more black & hispanic setups
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deleteddeletedover 11 years agoedited
This might be an unpopular opinion

But I'd like all the gun setup criteria to be restricted to 3/round as opposed to the regular a&d variant being limited to 3.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
No. If people comp all the decent setups in the first 3-4 rounds then you're basically guaranteed a round of crap.