Round 224 Discussion

runwithfirealmost 12 years ago
Stevenalmost 12 years ago
lolwot
Steven
I'm 99% sure nothing is OGI for guiser unless its cheating but there might be that 1 thing I cant think of so I wont say 100
Bribes and threats are OGI :^)
What do they have to do with guiser o_O
AsbelLhantalmost 12 years ago
filled in 1 minute ggerino
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years agoedited
Steven
I'm 99% sure nothing is OGI for guiser unless its cheating but there might be that 1 thing I cant think of so I wont say 100
Bribes and threats are OGI :^)
Stevenalmost 12 years ago
I'm 99% sure nothing is OGI for guiser unless its cheating but there might be that 1 thing I cant think of so I wont say 100
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Giga
Steven
Giga
Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.
I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.
Yeah. The risk comes with guising. It's on the guiser if they get caught. People use past skype conversations as guisetests, that's more OGI than what I did.
That's not OGI. It's strategy to guise into people who others don't know anything about to prevent a successful guise test. All personal info is fair game.
Stevenalmost 12 years ago
lolwot
Steven
Giga
Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.
I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.
Just to play a little devil's advocate... you're not supposed to be LOOKING outside of the game you're playing in order to "spot the guised". You wouldn't see it if you weren't actively looking for it.

It takes some effort to go to lobby page, click the setups, and see the list of players at that table.

:^)
No, you could be scouting games to see the one you would join next, or just browsing the forums while in the game and see someone make a huge post when they were active in the game. You don't need to try
Simsalmost 12 years ago
https://epicmafia.com/game/3426384 time for some VDLI
Simsalmost 12 years ago
imo if linking games to guise test isn't against the rules, neither should linking threads. i have no idea what the precedent on linking games is though
Gigaalmost 12 years agoedited
Yeah @Steven and even then that's cheating and all cheating is OGI other than screenshotting roles
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Steven
Giga
Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.
I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.
Just to play a little devil's advocate... you're not supposed to be LOOKING outside of the game you're playing in order to "spot the guised". You wouldn't see it if you weren't actively looking for it.

It takes some effort to go to lobby page, click the setups, and see the list of players at that table.

:^)
Stevenalmost 12 years ago
I don't know how much has changed but OGI really was never applied to guiser unless it could be seen as cheating (any sort of website that allows you to communicate with the guised person, or skype, etc)
Gigaalmost 12 years ago
Steven
Giga
Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.
I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.
Yeah. The risk comes with guising. It's on the guiser if they get caught. People use past skype conversations as guisetests, that's more OGI than what I did.
Stevenalmost 12 years ago
Giga
Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.
I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.
animegayboy69almost 12 years ago
now im reminded of this one anime where a dude was trying to be a calligrapher but this old guy criticized his work and said it sucks, so he flipped out and beat the crap out of the old guy, and then got sent off to live on an island with a bunch of hillbillies because he had a bad temper
Gigaalmost 12 years ago
I think what I did wrong was I was too careless with my speaking after IC was implimented (which ironically I pushed for the creation of), if you remove my IC vios I'm at 4; 3 if not for this OGI and two of those are just ISP

Wait I have a GRS my bad not two ISPS
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees
I used to do this all the time in order to figure out who was guised :^)
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Vancy
We're discussing this. The violation is not set in stone and Giga, I'll pm you so we can talk one on one.

>steel
it's okay keyboard warrior that can't spell
10
MeIodyalmost 12 years ago
Vancy hinted at being Superman there...where's Giga with the kryptonite?
animegayboy69almost 12 years ago
disguiser is more or less fundamentally unfair in a competitive game, which will not stop me from taking advantage of it
Togepialmost 12 years ago
Smoking weed does help. Also anime.
animegayboy69almost 12 years ago
just kidding don't do drugs
animegayboy69almost 12 years ago
chillaxe and smoke some weed and watch anime
Togepialmost 12 years ago
Someone potty train the kid already.
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
animegayboy69
Sachy
I'm going to pm everyone and tell them what I think of them
same but i'm just going to PM a bunch of people the c-word
same because that's what I actually think
Gigaalmost 12 years ago
Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.