Is hipfiring gamethrowing?

Betrayalalmost 12 years ago

Is hipfiring gamethrowing?

Why or why not? Discuss.

What if one hipfires correctly, should they be reported for gamethrowing?

And why does someone who hipfires incorrectly get in trouble with doing so when they were simply taking the risk that they would hipfire correctly and be rewarded for good behavior?

https://epicmafia.com/report/111188

Poll
Is hipfiring gamethrowing?
No60%12
Yes40%8
Ucklaralmost 12 years ago
Betrayal
Ucklar
For the most part, if most people have talked and the accused can come up with a plausible reason for shooting, it's fine. The only way its a violation is if you shoot so early in the day that it would be impossible to gather reads. The bottom line is you need to have at least a little bit of reasoning as to why you shot, and not just, "Oh, I have a gun. Yolo."
okay but you havent answered, what if I'm nilla and after saccing the COP n1, I decide to hipfire a townie and that townie was doc. Do I have to explain myself or is that gamethrowing and I deserve to be banned/vio for it? roflmao
There are always exceptions to rules~ The hipfiring rule only applies to townies shooting.
Betrayalalmost 12 years ago
Sanctify
Betrayal shut the fuxk up you know good and well that I you fire before people speak you hipfired. You fired with ZERO READS. This is a TEXT BASED GAME. If this was real life you could argue that your reads were body language but it's not. You hipfired you broke a rule it's that's simple.
Sanctify who do u think ur talking to kiddo, u dont tell me what to do! also what if I was cop and had guilty and shot my guilty and he was MILLER, do I get a violation for gamethrowing because I didnt know any better? Or is that cool?
Ucklaralmost 12 years ago
Sanctify
Ucklar
Betrayal
Okay then the next time a town hipfires me and im mafia, im reporting them and getting my refund.
That's what you should do lol.
Ucklar you're a moron, it wouldn't be refunded.. The person who hipfired would get a violation and that's it.
These kinds of situations can be cause for refunds, but it varies game by game.
Stevenalmost 12 years ago
I don't need to read the game to know that Betrayal was, indeed, trolling in whatever sparked this thread
Betrayalalmost 12 years agoedited
Ucklar
For the most part, if most people have talked and the accused can come up with a plausible reason for shooting, it's fine. The only way its a violation is if you shoot so early in the day that it would be impossible to gather reads. The bottom line is you need to have at least a little bit of reasoning as to why you shot, and not just, "Oh, I have a gun. Yolo."
okay but you havent answered, what if I'm nilla and after saccing the COP n1, I decide to hipfire a townie and that townie was doc. Do I have to explain myself or is that gamethrowing and I deserve to be banned/vio for it? roflmao
Sanctifyalmost 12 years ago
Betrayal shut the fuxk up you know good and well that I you fire before people speak you hipfired. You fired with ZERO READS. This is a TEXT BASED GAME. If this was real life you could argue that your reads were body language but it's not. You hipfired you broke a rule it's that's simple.
Ucklaralmost 12 years ago
For the most part, if most people have talked and the accused can come up with a plausible reason for shooting, it's fine. The only way its a violation is if you shoot so early in the day that it would be impossible to gather reads. The bottom line is you need to have at least a little bit of reasoning as to why you shot, and not just, "Oh, I have a gun. Yolo."
denningsalmost 12 years ago
Steven
dennings
If hipfiring's automatic gamethrowing, you need to remove vig from ranked night start setups because they're shooting their gun without getting reads.

Suck it.
Hey I've tried to say this for a long time but people dont listen :/

The idea that gamethrowing isn't tied to the intention is silly. You can be playing suboptimally and not gamethrow, everyone knows that
Signed, sealed, delivered.

Your move, mods.
Edarkalmost 12 years ago
Hipfire is playing mafia on Hard Mode
Stevenalmost 12 years ago
dennings
If hipfiring's automatic gamethrowing, you need to remove vig from ranked night start setups because they're shooting their gun without getting reads.

Suck it.
Hey I've tried to say this for a long time but people dont listen :/

The idea that gamethrowing isn't tied to the intention is silly. You can be playing suboptimally and not gamethrow, everyone knows that
Sanctifyalmost 12 years ago
Ucklar
Betrayal
Okay then the next time a town hipfires me and im mafia, im reporting them and getting my refund.
That's what you should do lol.
Ucklar you're a moron, it wouldn't be refunded.. The person who hipfired would get a violation and that's it.
Betrayalalmost 12 years ago
Ucklar
Betrayal
Ucklar
Betrayal
Satan
pretty sure it's physically impossible to get reads 1 second into the game
nope. i do it all the time and most of the time, im right
You should stop hipfiring. It isn't playing towards your win condition, and all that will happen is that you will receive more violations,
okay but what if I hipfire a townie as mafia

do town can the ability to report me because im doing my job and getting rid of town as mafia?
Hipfiring is hipfiring. It doesn't matter the consequence of the action. It will still be a violation.
Okay and who determines what a hipfire is vs a non-hipfire hmm?

how can you differentiate between someone who hipfired versus someone who did not

is their a time allotted to when hipfiring isnt hipfiring? There isn't a systematic approach to what constitutes a hipfire therefore this law is ridiculous.
Ucklaralmost 12 years ago
Betrayal
Ucklar
Betrayal
Satan
pretty sure it's physically impossible to get reads 1 second into the game
nope. i do it all the time and most of the time, im right
You should stop hipfiring. It isn't playing towards your win condition, and all that will happen is that you will receive more violations,
okay but what if I hipfire a townie as mafia

do town can the ability to report me because im doing my job and getting rid of town as mafia?
Hipfiring is hipfiring. It doesn't matter the consequence of the action. It will still be a violation.
Betrayalalmost 12 years ago
Ucklar
Hipfiring is now trolling for w/e reason, but it was always illegal.
Okay I demand that you talk to your superiors and have that law changed, I think that it is unjust and ruins the quality of mafia games. People are no longer taking risks in mafia like they used to thanks to this stupid law.
Betrayalalmost 12 years ago
Edark
Hipfire doesnt automatically means your intention is to lose the game on purpose
exactly my point! people hipfire with the intention to shoot the mafia, they dont intend to hipfire wrong when hipfiring
denningsalmost 12 years ago
If hipfiring's automatic gamethrowing, you need to remove vig from ranked night start setups because they're shooting their gun without getting reads.

Suck it.
Ucklaralmost 12 years ago
Hipfiring is now trolling for w/e reason, but it was always illegal.
Edarkalmost 12 years ago
Hipfire doesnt automatically means your intention is to lose the game on purpose
Betrayalalmost 12 years agoedited
Ucklar
Betrayal
Satan
pretty sure it's physically impossible to get reads 1 second into the game
nope. i do it all the time and most of the time, im right
You should stop hipfiring. It isn't playing towards your win condition, and all that will happen is that you will receive more violations,
okay but what if I hipfire a townie as mafia

do town can the ability to report me because im doing my job and getting rid of town as mafia?
Betrayalalmost 12 years ago
Ucklar
Betrayal
Ucklar
Betrayal
Okay then the next time a town hipfires me and im mafia, im reporting them and getting my refund.
That's what you should do lol.
but nobody ever does that, why?
People do report it quite often lol. If they don't its their loss, not mine.
but how is hipfiring gamethrowing? if you have a gun, you should have a right to shoot it

why are there gun restriction laws that is BS and what constitutes a hipfire vs a normal shot

who is the judge of that
Ucklaralmost 12 years ago
Betrayal
Satan
pretty sure it's physically impossible to get reads 1 second into the game
nope. i do it all the time and most of the time, im right
You should stop hipfiring. It isn't playing towards your win condition, and all that will happen is that you will receive more violations,
Satanalmost 12 years ago
Betrayal
Satan
pretty sure it's physically impossible to get reads 1 second into the game
nope. i do it all the time and most of the time, im right
gut feelings =/= reads
Ucklaralmost 12 years ago
Betrayal
Ucklar
Betrayal
Okay then the next time a town hipfires me and im mafia, im reporting them and getting my refund.
That's what you should do lol.
but nobody ever does that, why?
People do report it quite often lol. If they don't its their loss, not mine.
Betrayalalmost 12 years ago
Satan
pretty sure it's physically impossible to get reads 1 second into the game
nope. i do it all the time and most of the time, im right
Satanalmost 12 years ago
pretty sure it's physically impossible to get reads 1 second into the game