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Fool + Mafia : Joint win, cheat ?

Dyoxyneabout 12 years ago

Here is an example : https://epicmafia.com/game/3307128/review

I am not experienced so I would like to know other people point of view about that !

Thank you :)

Poll
The situation is : - 2 towns - 2 mafias - 1 fool Is it cheating to explicitly tell the maf as a fool : "Vote for me, we will both win (joint win) ?"
No100%27
Yes0%0
27 votes
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
mandevian
also you have no idea how good my skills are. i can convince you to joint with me and ditch your friend in a game. its like you have never read any game i posted where i demonstrated these skills
"Epicmafia is the one love in my life. There will be many girls, but there is only one EpicMafia"

rip dez.
Duppiabout 12 years ago
Why havent lucid removed the pity points yet
Dyoxyneabout 12 years ago
Thanks everyone for the answers :)
CharlesMarkabout 12 years ago
he has to be an android with infallible opinions
CharlesMarkabout 12 years ago
steven why do we seem to agree on everything
Stevenabout 12 years agoedited
Fool TOWNSIDING is the low move, not mafiasiding.

Fool's win condition is to /get lynched/. The town "pity points" shouldn't have been added in the first place for fool and lyncher.

If a third party can joint with town or mafia to accomplish its intended win condition (like warlock for example) then perfect for them, they can feel free to choose.

But I still fail to see why fool was given the town pity points
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deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
stop imposing your wrong opinions onto everybody else
CharlesMarkabout 12 years ago
lets be real. if you DO care about overall points (which i cant understand) you will be better off in the long run just jointing with whoever your friend is
CharlesMarkabout 12 years ago
you cant get an achievement from jointing with mafia. also hardly anyone actually cares about points when it comes to deciding if you are going to stab your meta-buddies in the back or not
TweIveabout 12 years ago
CharlesMark
TweIve
Hate to say this but pranay is right; fool has a 110 point motive for mafsiding.
the only possible benefits of points are in a competition and when you are farming points to get to a competition. since you can't use thirds in comp anymore, the actual time someone will be motivated by points instead of by who their friends are is negligible
People like points, hadn't you noticed? Also, the achievement is far from negligible.
CharlesMarkabout 12 years ago
in a competition...

it was my opinion that fool jointing with town (not mafia, as OP has asked) should be considered cheating, as it was almost always because they were playing for the condition of their friends trophy.
CharlesMarkabout 12 years agoedited
TweIve
Hate to say this but pranay is right; fool has a 110 point motive for mafsiding.
the only possible benefits of points are in a competition and when you are farming points to get to a competition. since you can't use thirds in comp anymore, the actual time someone will be motivated by points instead of by who their friends are is negligible
juneauabout 12 years ago
you have no idea what others like. you think others like eevrything that you like
no pranay that would be you
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mandevianabout 12 years ago
also you have no idea how good my skills are. i can convince you to joint with me and ditch your friend in a game. its like you have never read any game i posted where i demonstrated these skills
mandevianabout 12 years ago
dezerie that is just your opinion and it is a very bad one. you have no idea what others like. you think others like eevrything that you like
TweIveabout 12 years ago
Hate to say this but pranay is right; fool has a 110 point motive for mafsiding.
dezeriaeabout 12 years ago
No, I don't see myself contradicting myself. Point don't interfere with win condition, so my statement is correct. Fool can win with either alignment, nobody cares the slightest how many points that fool will recieve (maybe the fool, respectively.)

You can't convince a fool to win with you if that fool decided he wants to win with his friends as town, not with you as mafia.
mandevianabout 12 years ago
>in the slightest

>only points


do you see yourself contradict yourself??????


also it is an aspect of the game--- you need to know the trick to get the fool on yourside.. it is a challenge, not a downside---

if this is a downside then mafia having the power to kill at night is also a downside

stop imposing your wrong opinions onto everybody else.

this guy just asked if it was allowed, and you were supposed to tell him yes it is.


try and think beyond what you can see
dezeriaeabout 12 years ago
It is a downside to give one player the right to decide which party wins, when it doesn't affect his win condition in the slightest (only points).
mandevianabout 12 years ago
its no downside, its an aspect
dezeriaeabout 12 years ago
No, this is the downside of third party roles, the fool can decide who he wants to win with and use this to decide the outcome of the game.