Mimic can clears blues

deleteddeletedover 7 years ago

https://epicmafia.com/game/6873604/review

When mimic visits mafia, they only self-visit. When mimic visits town, they visit self and the town -> the game double checks the role of the visited and they make the "Role Box" to reappears. In the case of Mimic onto pr, the new box is the new role (which is blue because they got mimiced).

But when blue get mimiced.. the box reappears as villager seemingly for no reason. Blue can know if they got mimiced if their box was "reset".

That means the same way caroler can clear people if they claim to be caroled, mimic can clear blue if they claim to have their role box "reset",

Discuss

Awnyyover 7 years ago
https://epicmafia.com/game/6875508

I tested it again, apparently the role is fixed so im going to lock this thread.
bottleover 7 years agoedited
ErzaScarIet
bottle
ErzaScarIet
For an example
Drunk drunks guiser tracker goes on drunk. The report would be drunk going on the guiser and not the guised
i'm pretty sure that's how it's supposed to work, the tracker sees the report of who the drunk chose at night (but in this case if guiser is drunked they couldn't have guised out so guiser = guised)
im talking about d2 when guiser is drunked with tracker checking who the drunk drinks. cause i caught guiser that way

https://epicmafia.com/game/6870183
my bad, didn’t get what you were saying before
tracker gets drunk visit report onto original guier when guiser is hiding as someone else - sounds like a weird bug lol
ErzaScarIetover 7 years ago
bottle
ErzaScarIet
For an example
Drunk drunks guiser tracker goes on drunk. The report would be drunk going on the guiser and not the guised
i'm pretty sure that's how it's supposed to work, the tracker sees the report of who the drunk chose at night (but in this case if guiser is drunked they couldn't have guised out so guiser = guised)
im talking about d2 when guiser is drunked with tracker checking who the drunk drinks. cause i caught guiser that way

https://epicmafia.com/game/6870183
bottleover 7 years ago
ErzaScarIet
For an example
Drunk drunks guiser tracker goes on drunk. The report would be drunk going on the guiser and not the guised
i'm pretty sure that's how it's supposed to work, the tracker sees the report of who the drunk chose at night (but in this case if guiser is drunked they couldn't have guised out so guiser = guised)
bottleover 7 years ago
also from what i've heard the box exploit is fixed now, only pr's get the box when they change to blue, blues don't get notified when they are mimic'd anymore
Awnyyover 7 years agoedited
While it might be true that mimic actually visit mafia, what is more relevant tho is that regardless, it has been proved they only reset town's box.

The tooltip solution only resolves the problem about tracked mimic on maf, not the box issue.
denialover 7 years ago
read what bottle said, the tooltip is misleading and makes it sound like mimic won't visit if targeting mafia, so they thought dissent was cleared for being visited
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Awnyyover 7 years ago
@Denial : changing the tooltip is not a solution if the role isnt fixed. Regardless of what the tooltip says if its common knowledge that the mimic does not reset mafia's box.
Awnyyover 7 years ago
Being afk/tabbed out doesnt reset the box, only refreshing/quiting the game.
ErzaScarIetover 7 years ago
Oh I just saw awwny’s video but yea I don’t remember seeing it at day start again
ErzaScarIetover 7 years ago
Also can someone explain what the hella box is and how we can see it refreshing? What if an afk blue is mimiced? Would they not see it? Or is it going to be fixed and should we not care? Yesterday this mimic was trying to get me lynched cause I didn’t claim my box resetting and I was blue and idek how to..
ErzaScarIetover 7 years ago
bottle
Minie
ive been wanting to try the mimicing on blue this round to confirm the town but it has too many flaws
1)tracker needs to be on the mimic to see the report
2)a pr is prolly lost while doing that
3) the tracker isnt guaranteed to stay alive to out the report
the tracker exploit doesn't work btw
https://epicmafia.com/game/6871619/review
Aww man that really sucks! Then the description needs to be changed or the report should be fixed


@daniel while we are at this topic can you confirm if tracker catching the guiser is a glitch or not?

For an example
Drunk drunks guiser tracker goes on drunk. The report would be drunk going on the guiser and not the guised

Same thing when tracker directly tracks the guiser the report is the guiser visiting and not the guised
deleteddeletedover 7 years ago
Also the whole thing gets fcked if you refresh. Probably not a good idea to have dependent game mechanics that die when you reload :3333
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shadyover 7 years ago
bottle
yeah the box thing is new and definitely makes it more powerful but i think it kinda messes up the role.

it basically makes mimic a one-shot cop in addition to being able to copy a pr
except mafia can fake it like a carol :( awnyy :(
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bottleover 7 years ago
yeah the box thing is new and definitely makes it more powerful but i think it kinda messes up the role.

it basically makes mimic a one-shot cop in addition to being able to copy a pr
denialover 7 years ago
yeeks, okay well i can probably just fix the tooltip for the role itself so people don't think mafia are clear because they see the visit thing
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GameThroweadorover 7 years ago
bottle
denial
mafia wont receive the box because they dont' get visited per the mimic mechanics, but ty for testing it, ill pass along to lucid
they do get visited by mimic mechanics tho
bottle
i was guiser, and dissent mimic'd on me. tracker caught him visiting me and self
i was basically autocleared even though i was maf
that was a misinterpretation of the mimic mechanics, and its been this way for years. mimic always mimics target+self

the box thing is new, and is actually a buff to the role. mimicking blue becomes actually optimal if maf nojans n1 and prs are clear
bottleover 7 years agoedited
denial
mafia wont receive the box because they dont' get visited per the mimic mechanics, but ty for testing it, ill pass along to lucid
they do get visited by mimic mechanics tho
bottle
i was guiser, and dissent mimic'd on me. tracker caught him visiting me and self
i was basically autocleared even though i was maf
Awnyyover 7 years ago
denial
mafia wont receive the box because they dont' get visited per the mimic mechanics, but ty for testing it, ill pass along to lucid
Exactly, thats the premise of why it only works on blue
denialover 7 years ago
mafia wont receive the box because they dont' get visited per the mimic mechanics, but ty for testing it, ill pass along to lucid
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Awnyyover 7 years agoedited
Edark
Awnyy
Proof it still works :
I know its 480p but w/e i was lazy
https://imgur.com/a/YFwBkqV

Oddly, the mimic box is delayed
this didnt make the box re-appear tho
I couldnt be fked to film the entire game to show my first box, but i promise i did get it and i didnt quit the browser.

+ I just tried the same but as vanilla mafia. Mafia do not get their box to be reset.
Edarkover 7 years ago
oh wait its n2, couldnt see with the low res.

Nice it still works then
Edarkover 7 years ago
Awnyy
Proof it still works :
I know its 480p but w/e i was lazy
https://imgur.com/a/YFwBkqV

Oddly, the mimic box is delayed
this didnt make the box re-appear tho
Awnyyover 7 years agoedited
Proof it still works :
I know its 480p but w/e i was lazy
https://imgur.com/a/YFwBkqV

Oddly, the mimic box is delayed
bottleover 7 years ago
the way the role is written is wrong, but mimic has to visit their target in order to check alignment