New Site Rule

Songinalmost 8 years ago

Racial Slurs

Malicious use of slurs against players that are based on race and/or ethnicity. We will show absolutely no tolerance towards racist and xenophobic ideals. Expires in 6 months

  • Warning

  • Site Ban


Discuss.

Poll
Zero tolerance?
Yes66%32
No33%16
deleteddeletedalmost 8 years ago
xxerox
no tollerance doesnt mean stright ban.

We can indeed skip all the warnings and remove them altogether.

but stright ban is not a good option.

there should be sanction that are harsh yet not the harshest if you know what i mean.
How difficult do you think it is to not say anything racist? No one that says something racist should get a "warning", they should be banned.
xxeroxalmost 8 years ago
no tollerance doesnt mean stright ban.

We can indeed skip all the warnings and remove them altogether.

but stright ban is not a good option.

there should be sanction that are harsh yet not the harshest if you know what i mean.
deleteddeletedalmost 8 years ago
Bebop
Gulag
JonSnow
It should not be phrased as "Malicious use of slurs" since this could be interpreted in a subjective way so the best way to phrase it would be "any use of the slur will get you the vio"
why you tryna stop the brothas from reclaiming , my
t. person who authored the famous thread "RACIST MODERATORS"
???? what's your point
Bebopalmost 8 years ago
Gulag
JonSnow
It should not be phrased as "Malicious use of slurs" since this could be interpreted in a subjective way so the best way to phrase it would be "any use of the slur will get you the vio"
why you tryna stop the brothas from reclaiming , my
t. person who authored the famous thread "RACIST MODERATORS"
illuminatialmost 8 years ago
S/Os to all my fellow crackers. It's a good time to be a straight white man.
xxeroxalmost 8 years ago
Bebop
xxerox
Any form of severe or excessive hate speech or hateful language based on race, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, mental capabilities, and other personal circumstances.
Expires in 4 months
1. Warning
2. 72 Hour Forum and/or lobby Suspension
3. Forum, Comment, and Chat Ban
4. Site Ban

This is what i did.

Its harsh enough but still lets players play and give them chance to repend.
this is almost the exact same as the current hc rule except you've included increments of suspension that dont work on the current system
I know, i just edited the rules from 2 years ago and posted them on here as a pastebin. It wasnt a big edit, just 1-2 small changes.


BUT a longer suspencion is better than 24 hours or 12 hours.

You shouldn't make them inpossible harsh, you should just make them harsher.

72 hours sounds nice. Its 3 days. People can always quit for 1 day and start again.

Giving them more time to calm down and rethin is a good idea than stright ban.
deleteddeletedalmost 8 years ago
JonSnow
It should not be phrased as "Malicious use of slurs" since this could be interpreted in a subjective way so the best way to phrase it would be "any use of the slur will get you the vio"
why you tryna stop the brothas from reclaiming , my
illuminatialmost 8 years ago
Good thing mods aren't a race because that race would SUCK
illuminatialmost 8 years ago
We will show absolutely no tolerance but also you'll get a little slap on the wrist as a token of goodwill to prove we have some tolerance.
Bebopalmost 8 years ago
xxerox
Any form of severe or excessive hate speech or hateful language based on race, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, mental capabilities, and other personal circumstances.
Expires in 4 months
1. Warning
2. 72 Hour Forum and/or lobby Suspension
3. Forum, Comment, and Chat Ban
4. Site Ban

This is what i did.

Its harsh enough but still lets players play and give them chance to repend.
this is almost the exact same as the current hc rule except you've included increments of suspension that dont work on the current system
xxeroxalmost 8 years ago
can be extended to 6 months too. So its a win/win.

it was made based on the really old rules 2 years ago.
xxeroxalmost 8 years ago
Any form of severe or excessive hate speech or hateful language based on race, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, mental capabilities, and other personal circumstances.
Expires in 4 months
1. Warning
2. 72 Hour Forum and/or lobby Suspension
3. Forum, Comment, and Chat Ban
4. Site Ban

This is what i did.

Its harsh enough but still lets players play and give them chance to repend.
Songinalmost 8 years agoedited
JonSnow
It should not be phrased as "Malicious use of slurs" since this could be interpreted in a subjective way so the best way to phrase it would be "any use of the slur will get you the vio"
Yes. Subjectivity in this matter would cause a lot of arguing and people trying to make their usage of slurs okay in instances it's not. By objectively banning the usage of racial/homophobic/etc slurs, you ensure that there's no room for misinterpreting the rules, and people skitting around it by not using it "maliciously"

JonSnow
Regarding harassment, i'm not sure if i understood correctly, but do you want it to be rephrased without the part where it says "repeated attacks" so it's harsher and this way it might work in a better way?


Harrasment should be dealt with swifter in my opinion. Generally speaking, it seems that most users need to report an individual a number of times before they are given a harrasment vio.
xxeroxalmost 8 years ago
JonSnow
I didn't have time to contribute before so here is what i'd like to say:

Lucid asked us to come up with a new rule that deals with racial slurs and also asked us to make it harsher than the original HC rule so it's his wish.

Let me see if i understood correctly what were some of the best suggestions here and if you agree with them:

Since it only takes 2 vios to get site banned the 1st one shouldn't be a warning and it should be harsher and the 2nd one should be site ban.

It should not be phrased as "Malicious use of slurs" since this could be interpreted in a subjective way so the best way to phrase it would be "any use of the slur will get you the vio"

Regarding harassment, i'm not sure if i understood correctly, but do you want it to be rephrased without the part where it says "repeated attacks" so it's harsher and this way it might work in a better way?
wait a second : let me check my old rules set. i am sure i have them saved somwhere. it dealt with the racial problem too
Pinksalmost 8 years ago
zambi
come November
We're already in November. It's November 2 today.
JonSnowalmost 8 years ago
I didn't have time to contribute before so here is what i'd like to say:

Lucid asked us to come up with a new rule that deals with racial slurs and also asked us to make it harsher than the original HC rule so it's his wish.

Let me see if i understood correctly what were some of the best suggestions here and if you agree with them:

Since it only takes 2 vios to get site banned the 1st one shouldn't be a warning and it should be harsher and the 2nd one should be site ban.

It should not be phrased as "Malicious use of slurs" since this could be interpreted in a subjective way so the best way to phrase it would be "any use of the slur will get you the vio"

Regarding harassment, i'm not sure if i understood correctly, but do you want it to be rephrased without the part where it says "repeated attacks" so it's harsher and this way it might work in a better way?
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Songinalmost 8 years ago
11 pages and no reports yet. You guys can do better than that!
deleteddeletedalmost 8 years ago
LOL Zhurob
Alyssaalmost 8 years ago
As pointed out there's already a rule on hateful comments and it makes it pretty clear that derogatory remarks are not welcome.

Since lucid is around how about you pitch to him some censors/filters in-game and be more harsh on people bypassing filters since it's obvious they know it's against the rules?
Zhuorbalmost 8 years ago
BeepBeepLettuce
Bebop
whats the consensus on saying rarted

fixed
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Zhuorbalmost 8 years ago
xxerox
i already made new rules with way better punishments. It was a long time ago and i still may have it somwhere.. i think.. idk...
xxerox was a man ahead of his time
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zambialmost 8 years ago
rip jesus, he knew
BeepBeepLettucealmost 8 years ago
Bebop
whats the consensus on saying rarted
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BeepBeepLettucealmost 8 years ago
Ally
have u guys argued yet about how the r-word is going to be zero tolerance violated now
I was given a small personal exception by one of the mods. But hopefully I don't have to use it that much.
Bebopalmost 8 years ago
whats the consensus on saying rarted
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