Do you prefer playing as town, mafia, or 3rd party?
Town42%14
Mafia27%9
None of them, I hate mafia, why am I here18%6
3rd Party9%3
All of them!3%1
deleteddeletedabout 8 years ago
https://epicmafia.com/setup/1453406 I thought it was going to play like STBS, but people just tell the Psychic to get claims from everyone and then randomly lead a lynch. Don't play.
While taking into account a player's skill level is a good idea when deciding on a lynch, it shouldn't be a deciding factor, especially in a potential LYLO. If it was certainly a ML, I would understand and would have been fine with your idea, however as I expressed in game, there existed a possibility of it being LYLO, and going based solely on statistics was a horrible idea.
deleteddeletedabout 8 years ago
I did not use "stats instead of reads" I used a combination of stats and reading. In fact I even specialized the role of statistics to my self, and the "reading" to Song. Which I believe is much more of an efficient way to use the given potential resources which town has.
lotta words for you to say that you're a cuck who uses stats instead of reads
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deleteddeletedabout 8 years ago
Well Song and Harkinian, My intention was not to base my decision on the "sole point" of statistics.
Since solving for the inverse problem of who is town and who is mafia likely involves multiple comparisons; both reading and statistics must be used, at the least. The reasoning is that "reading" will allow to covert the factors which are imaginable and statistics will allow to cover factors which are not-imaginable.
One factor during that game was that Song is the best player statically, in that table; both as mafia (maf win rate) and town (town win rate). So if Song is was mafia, we would except Song to not-scum tell easily. This would justify lynching her on 'day n', even if she did town-tell (the other choices had bad town win rate, meaning you can except them to be a bit scummy even as town).
On the contrary, if Song was town, it would be better to rely on her "reads" rather than my own (my town win rate is lower). So if I can lynch her on 'day n' I can confirm that she is indeed town, and safely sheep her superior reads for 'day n+1'.
This allows for a combination of my statistical approach and Song's superior "reading" approach. Not relying solely on statistics.
This is of course assuming only one mafia was left. Which I assumed was true because Doctorkohinata claimed mafia (he was miller).
It's not a terrible idea to consider the ability of players when you're deciding a lynch, but if you use it as your sole point of reference than I can understand getting angry if I were to get lynched as blue by you.
Next time Song's in a game with you Pender and you're clear, how is he going to have any incentive to help the town or try to town if he knows he has no influence on who you lynch?
I don't hate you Penderecki, I'm just salty and think it's a stupid move to vote based on play statistics over normal reading.
Also I'm pretty sure claiming maf is GTing as said by mods in another thread.
deleteddeletedabout 8 years agoedited
Hey Song, I think using statistics is more important than relying on "reads", sometimes, because there is a limit to have much behavior can correlate with being town or mafia.
Also, that choice has a lot of influence from Doctorkohinata claiming mafia as he was lynched (he was miller). If I had excepted a probability that there may still be two mafs left I would not have made that choice of lynching you.
Although I do apologize for hammering incorrectly, I do not regret the choice I made. I believe it was well thought out.
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