Changing hipfire precedence.

deleteddeletedalmost 10 years ago

The mods have decided to change how we will treat hipfiring from this point forward. Since now, Moderators have been treating hipfires on a different basis depending on it being red heart game or a gold heart game, giving trolling for red hearts and gt for gold hearts. This is counter-intuitive because not all hipfiring is exactly GT, given that it requires intent and is only sub-optimal at times. This has been discussed and changed in mind of the coming round(s), in which it will come down to moderator discretion on whether the hipfire is trolling/gt. This does not mean that you should go and hipfire your friends, as GT will still be given accordingly for those who shoot players out of grudge or into near autoloss situations.

Naikonalmost 10 years ago
DahliaHawthorne
It doesn't make sense for the same situation to be explicitly trolling in one game and explicitly gamethrowing in another, based simply on whether a game is a gold heart or not. Calm your t*ts people.
God look at this post. Shows the mods dont even know what they're talking about
deleteddeletedalmost 10 years ago
Retti
All we did was revert it back to the precedence established me/Goodbar made.
You're the worst.
deleteddeletedalmost 10 years agoedited
Becomeclear
Then make it the same for both? What do you need mod discretion for?
Because if someone hipfires and does it knowingly against their win condition then they are game throwing and if they're just doing it with a f**k it attitude it's trolling, silly! Gamethrowing requires intent you can't just say X is always gamethrowing!
Becomeclearalmost 10 years ago
Nobody's whining, can't you keep this civil?
deleteddeletedalmost 10 years ago
y'all whine about consistency until a decision is made in consistency's sake it's pretty hypocritical don't you think?
Becomeclearalmost 10 years ago
Then make it the same for both? What do you need mod discretion for?
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deleteddeletedalmost 10 years ago
It doesn't make sense for the same situation to be explicitly trolling in one game and explicitly gamethrowing in another, based simply on whether a game is a gold heart or not. Calm your t*ts people.
Naikonalmost 10 years ago
If I were admin I'd never accept "mod discretion" as the solution to any rule. It just creates more problems
Naikonalmost 10 years ago
I'm just stating the obvious here
Rutabalmost 10 years ago
Naikon
Grudge shooting is a totally different case. That is clearly GT and if the mod is unable to differentiate grudge shooting and hipfiring then they should be demodded
^^^^^^^^^^^ wow good stuff
Naikonalmost 10 years ago
Grudge shooting is a totally different case. That is clearly GT and if the mod is unable to differentiate grudge shooting and hipfiring then they should be demodded
deleteddeletedalmost 10 years ago
i hip fired rutab
Naikonalmost 10 years agoedited
Just set it to trolling then. Why do you want more threads created on hipfiring by letting it be up to the moderator (who's probably favoring their friend and being harsher on nonfriends)
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Becomeclearalmost 10 years ago
Also I'm not a huge fan of arguing reports against me nor do I make reports on other people myself so this really has nothing to do with me
Becomeclearalmost 10 years ago
Look friend I'm not against you or anything I just think that you should make the rules clear and cut. If you hipfire, you get A.
Becomeclearalmost 10 years ago
Then change the rule to that, don't leave it out to "mod discretion"
deleteddeletedalmost 10 years ago
Becomeclear
What was changed is you decide what's changed on a case by case basis
Then it's something you argue with the mod/report in question, which is discretion is placed. Generally most of us agree on it being trolling if it didn't cause autoloss/wasn't grudge, so this only benefits people.
Rutabalmost 10 years ago
I mean, isn't this a severe form of Trolling anyways? It might as well be GT, because if it's proven a hipfire then the shooter doesn't care about winning the game lol
Becomeclearalmost 10 years ago
What was changed is you decide what's changed on a case by case basis
deleteddeletedalmost 10 years ago
Do you want people to get GT regardless of the outcome in gold heart? That's what was changed.
Becomeclearalmost 10 years ago
Retti
All we did was revert it back to the precedence established me/Goodbar made.
And all we did was say that you are wrong
Naikonalmost 10 years ago
Well you and Goodbar probably shouldn't insert your opinion. Mod discretion as the solution to any rule is a terrible idea. Just look at the state of HC
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denialalmost 10 years ago
https://epicmafia.com/report/196723

everyone interested in hipfire should look at this report/game btw.
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deleteddeletedalmost 10 years ago
All we did was revert it back to the precedence established me/Goodbar made.
deleteddeletedalmost 10 years ago
Coming down to mod discretion means 70% will be wrong
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