Split the Lobbies

vildenabout 10 years ago

Comp is so bad right now, its actually just funny. Theres nothing else to it. It's simply funny how bad it is. I think its time you all realize this. The sooner you accept that, the quicker we can fix it. Because games are just s'hit. They are played like reds and no one cares about throws/meta abuse/ect anymore and these are suppose to be competitive games. Mods are forgiving 'bad play' reports more now than ever. I saw a gt alt with 18-50 record. it takes actual skill to reach that level as a gt alt and not be banned by now. He srsly must have some top tier main outplaying mods with dumbtells

I'm writing to request we split the lobbies: Competitive/Casual. We need a comp atmosphere to have a competition. Moderation of comp lobby should be harsher too. Trust me on this. Tables are so s'hit. Players have no clue what they're doing. Go with me here. I used to play competitive CPL cs1.6. Google 'vilden mage' and you'll find me. I know a casual game vs a competition. Merged lobbies ruined the comp aspect I used to rly enjoy

All you have to do now is ask lucid to do it. Keep asking until he does it.

Just do it.


Examples of a 'competitive' games in the current lobby

https://epicmafia.com/game/5306049/review game1

  • Watch town lose practical autowin

https://epicmafia.com/game/5307684/review game2

  • Watcher claims to lead on maf at day end
  • Froce and OohashiAkko overthrow him to lynch a town
  • They blame others in post game when they lose

There are so many terrible players like this that it isn't a competition it's like a r'etard magnet filled with trolls, gt'ers, and idiots. A lobby exclusive to comp players will intimidate players in such a way that they worry more about their own improvement and gameplay. When you have such a casual, s'hitty lobby, it facilitates players who arent playing to win or COMPETE as they should be

TL;DR - I explain why we need a comp lobby again.


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Codyabout 10 years ago
Before Sonseray left he was dead set on getting me to implement this. I've thought about it on and off for the last two months and I've still not come to a solid conclusion. There are merits to a competitive lobby. If we had 50+ comp players active nightly I would separate the lobbies in the blink of an eye and have competitive lobby be its own, more serious lobby, and would even have moderators (with more mafia experience) dedicated to handling reports from it.

The main problem, at the moment, is that we don't have enough dedicated mafia players around. Games are going to be filled by the same bad players that you are trying to dodge in main lobby because there's not going to be a way we can filter them (points doesn't work because anyone can farm points) and we can't just ban them from the lobby because they're bad players.

The problem that we should first focus on is transitioning the large amount of casual red heart players to competitive mafia and getting them to 1) learn the mechanics 2) be interested enough in playing competitively and 3) want to participate in the competitive community. Drafting up a plan that tackles those goals first would be what I would do if I were to seriously pursue the lobby separation idea.
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vildenabout 10 years ago
ChilledOut
I have an idea

Let's combine EVERY lobby into one

Main, Sandbox, Survivor, and all customs

It'll be great because we'll be one giant, loving, horrific family and everyone will be forced to be together
Lets not make these posts please
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
Vilden at this point you have to be trolling the whole mod team because come on dude
vildenabout 10 years agoedited
Our moderators;

Gerry
where is the thread where we put bad idea threads inside it
posts this to be upvoted by his friends; never even played comp lobby, and is just sheeping the community when he says "enjoy waiting for games to fill"
mist
it's a casual game.
SJW former banned user, hasnt played competitive in months
Boo
Hello,
A lot of players simply don't like the angry, abusive copy/pastes that follow after mishammers.
Some people want to play in a non-competitive environment and thats OK!
Proves why a lobby split would help; gets upvoted by Gerry who shows his total lack of knowledge
jack
Retti
you need to give up on the idea of mafia being in a competitive format, trust me
this is the key to a happier life
Jack is a casual, doesnt play comp, shouldnt be commenting as I say
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
Don't touch Games lobby though

It's sacred
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
I have an idea

Let's combine EVERY lobby into one

Main, Sandbox, Survivor, and all customs

It'll be great because we'll be one giant, loving, horrific family and everyone will be forced to be together
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deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
thecolonel
Retti
yeah me being apart of a family like bad boyz which was one the biggest competitive families back in 2011 makes me a casual
This is a post which was made
i didnt say anything about the success, just pointing out i was a tryhard

i have one deleted bronze to show for my effort
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
ROFL  
thecolonelabout 10 years ago
Retti
yeah me being apart of a family like bad boyz which was one the biggest competitive families back in 2011 makes me a casual
This is a post which was made
Edarkabout 10 years ago
Retti
yeah me being apart of a family like bad boyz which was one the biggest competitive families back in 2011 makes me a casual
Salad tossers bruh
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
i dont think you understand how many threads were filled with me and everyone else just complaining about our runs and circlejerking to 111 pages
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vildenabout 10 years ago
you removed comp lobby, that's a good indicator
deleteddeletedabout 10 years agoedited
yeah me being apart of a family like bad boyz which was one the biggest competitive families back in 2011 makes me a casual
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
nobody thinks that vilden, they were scrutinized and told to go back to training, nobody actually wants to teach people how to get better
vildenabout 10 years ago
Retti, you feel smug because of all the support

but the people backing you are either casuals like yourself, or too new to comment, like Gerry
vildenabout 10 years ago
Retti
vilden i dont think you understand that even if you split the lobbies there is nothing stopping training players from joining the competition, which are the type of people that were alienated/complained about

believe me i was there. im the loremaster while billstickers is away
that's not a problem. thats great when training players join in. they're in to learn
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
apollo
ChilledOut
That makes sense

I meant to make a point that a lot of newer players aren't active in the community and have a smaller chance at becoming leaders throughout the site

I know everyone says "Oh ho ho everyone has an equal shot at modding" but, in general, most people are admined/modded when they're known by those already in place

If you think about it, the newer(ish) players aren't able to explore possibilities and concepts like when the site was new, and maybe they have good ideas

I wonder if there is a way to incorporate more new/fresh opinions from people you wouldn't normally hear from

I'm not really good at compiling my thoughts but I hope that makes half sense at least
You can't really blame people for choosing to work with people their more acquainted with, like you might be extremely intelligent but if you literally can't communicate with another person or "make friends" then there's no point cause you can't get your point across.

This site really can't get any more "fresh" tbf, like all the "freshness" has been squeezed out, atm it's probably as efficient as it can get.
I'm not saying it's wrong to work with people you know
I just meant that "it is what it is"

I don't know I'm just spitballing thoughts
thecolonelabout 10 years ago
jack
vilden
Hedger / annajane aren't comparable in the slightest. Anna downvoted my topic so I called her out on being unqualified to comment. If you're sensitive about that, then leave the discussion.
i'm just letting you know that having played in other lobbies is not a disqualifier of having an opinion towards competitive mafia
I think it's more like "your IQ must be above this line to comment"
deleteddeletedabout 10 years agoedited
ChilledOut
That makes sense

I meant to make a point that a lot of newer players aren't active in the community and have a smaller chance at becoming leaders throughout the site

I know everyone says "Oh ho ho everyone has an equal shot at modding" but, in general, most people are admined/modded when they're known by those already in place

If you think about it, the newer(ish) players aren't able to explore possibilities and concepts like when the site was new, and maybe they have good ideas

I wonder if there is a way to incorporate more new/fresh opinions from people you wouldn't normally hear from

I'm not really good at compiling my thoughts but I hope that makes half sense at least
You can't really blame people for choosing to work with people their more acquainted with, like you might be extremely intelligent but if you literally can't communicate with another person or "make friends" then there's no point cause you can't get your point across.

This site really can't get any more "fresh" tbf, like all the "freshness" has been squeezed out, atm it's probably as efficient as it can get.
jackabout 10 years ago
vilden
Hedger / annajane aren't comparable in the slightest. Anna downvoted my topic so I called her out on being unqualified to comment. If you're sensitive about that, then leave the discussion.
i'm just letting you know that having played in other lobbies is not a disqualifier of having an opinion towards competitive mafia
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
vilden i dont think you understand that even if you split the lobbies there is nothing stopping training players from joining the competition, which are the type of people that were alienated/complained about

believe me i was there. im the loremaster while billstickers is away
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
That makes sense

I meant to make a point that a lot of newer players aren't active in the community and have a smaller chance at becoming leaders throughout the site

I know everyone says "Oh ho ho everyone has an equal shot at modding" but, in general, most people are admined/modded when they're known by those already in place

If you think about it, the newer(ish) players aren't able to explore possibilities and concepts like when the site was new, and maybe they have good ideas

I wonder if there is a way to incorporate more new/fresh opinions from people you wouldn't normally hear from

I'm not really good at compiling my thoughts but I hope that makes half sense at least
vildenabout 10 years ago
Hedger / annajane aren't comparable in the slightest. Anna downvoted my topic so I called her out on being unqualified to comment. If you're sensitive about that, then leave the discussion.
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
i mean if you wanna try knock yourself out but when this exact thread is being made and people are complaining about how competition is still horrible don't say i didn't tell you so
TitorJhonabout 10 years ago
Old comp lobby was the best.
I trophied in fancy pants.