Epicmafia

deleteddeletedover 10 years ago

Devante

Exasperation
This makes any setup with doc/watcher cop/hooker/doc completely pointless the maf finding power roll will just keep getting hit, the doc has no reason to even save
it was announced two rounds ago with BV comped

still intact last round with B2NS comped

and mafia didn't do it because it completely ruins their game if the town decides to lynch on the day before the meteor night and hits mafia

you're being stupid dude lol

Town is still put into a position that isnt optimal for them, and mafia is statistically less likely to get lynched

deleteddeletedover 10 years ago

So games aren't trolled into a never ending cycle

Burialover 10 years ago

why even include the meteor if you're going to give a GT vio to a game that ends in a meteor?

Devanteover 10 years ago

Exasperation

This makes any setup with doc/watcher cop/hooker/doc completely pointless the maf finding power roll will just keep getting hit, the doc has no reason to even save

it was announced two rounds ago with BV comped

still intact last round with B2NS comped

and mafia didn't do it because it completely ruins their game if the town decides to lynch on the day before the meteor night and hits mafia

you're being stupid dude lol

deleteddeletedover 10 years ago

This makes any setup with doc/watcher cop/hooker/doc completely pointless the maf finding power roll will just keep getting hit, the doc has no reason to even save

Hibikiover 10 years ago

Giga13

Markus
cashmere
Anthony
When did it change to this? IIRC it used to be if the burden to kill was on the mafia, then you were forced to kill outside of the clear unless they were in autolose, because they had the penalty of trying to nk over and over.
If the doctor keeps saving a certain kill, out of which the mafia can't kill due to the result of an autoloss scenario, then the burden lies on the doctor not mafia.
Anthony is talking about a situation where killing outside of the clear which does not result in autoloss. I still think the onus should not lie with the doctor in a situation where the mafia are able to kill a player outside the clear without resulting in autoloss.
this

geeettttttt
dunked on!!!

Hibikiover 10 years ago

up top!!!!!!!!!!

Devanteover 10 years ago

also like i said it's nearly impossible to give mafia a GT vio for anything they plan, and telling them they're not allowed to use a strategy that is indeed a strategy is stupid & not going to happen

Devanteover 10 years ago

anyone who brings up BV in an argument is pretty stupid because if mafia continue to hit the cop with doc saving them no matter what on day 4 (or 3 if d1 was a save) the cop will have enough reports to just get the doctor to claim and lynch in blues,

yes, on MYLO.

if either mafia role is lynched the town would be equip with at least 3 clears removing the 3way or 4way no clears, so the mechanics you're all so scared of really isn't helping your argument if you expand your mind

Huntover 10 years ago

Tucker is absolutely right. And why is gerry mod? Like, really? Didnt we have enough of him already? Are we trying to infiltrate the website completely?

Devanteover 10 years ago

Exasperation

Town isn't aloud to play strategically, they just have to bend to the whim of how mafia feels like playing

that's already how the game is played.

deleteddeletedover 10 years ago

Onuzq

This is dumb, make the mafia who is refusing to take a 1v1 against the doc get the violation. Not the doc himself.

Mafia who repeat this process are abusing the mechanics of the site to their advantage.

This. This. This.

Tucker this was a mistake and you know it, in that game I was saving as Doctor because I was playing optimally by saving the guy who was claiming Cop. I had claimed in that game, so the mafia knew I was Doctor. But they were still trying to kill the same person who claimed Cop, even though they knew he wasn't cop since they had Janitor and Cop was janned.

Onuzqover 10 years ago

This is dumb, make the mafia who is refusing to take a 1v1 against the doc get the violation. Not the doc himself.

Mafia who repeat this process are abusing the mechanics of the site to their advantage.

deleteddeletedover 10 years ago

Town isn't aloud to play strategically, they just have to bend to the whim of how mafia feels like playing

Giga13over 10 years ago

Markus

cashmere
Anthony
When did it change to this? IIRC it used to be if the burden to kill was on the mafia, then you were forced to kill outside of the clear unless they were in autolose, because they had the penalty of trying to nk over and over.
If the doctor keeps saving a certain kill, out of which the mafia can't kill due to the result of an autoloss scenario, then the burden lies on the doctor not mafia.
Anthony is talking about a situation where killing outside of the clear which does not result in autoloss. I still think the onus should not lie with the doctor in a situation where the mafia are able to kill a player outside the clear without resulting in autoloss.

this

deleteddeletedover 10 years ago

cashmere

Anthony
When did it change to this? IIRC it used to be if the burden to kill was on the mafia, then you were forced to kill outside of the clear unless they were in autolose, because they had the penalty of trying to nk over and over.
If the doctor keeps saving a certain kill, out of which the mafia can't kill due to the result of an autoloss scenario, then the burden lies on the doctor not mafia.

Anthony is talking about a situation where killing outside of the clear which does not result in autoloss. I still think the onus should not lie with the doctor in a situation where the mafia are able to kill a player outside the clear without resulting in autoloss.

lingover 10 years ago

back in the good old days before meteor, people just accepted autoloss as men, too many pussies now and not even the good kind

Devanteover 10 years ago

dzanek1143

Now I'm wondering about using my 2 slots yet I haven't gamethrew to save some clears or towntells as doctor, focus on me rather than lose them leading town to loss. It's better for me to get meteor than losing some towntell and outing as doctor on lylo making me sure dead and town most likely to loss. As I told meteor > town loss. When I get 2 vios stop playing setups with doctors.

....what?

dzanek1143over 10 years ago

Now I'm wondering about using my 2 slots yet I haven't gamethrew to save some clears or towntells as doctor, focus on me rather than lose them leading town to loss. It's better for me to get meteor than losing some towntell and outing as doctor on lylo making me sure dead and town most likely to loss. As I told meteor > town loss. When I get 2 vios stop playing setups with doctors.

trolleyzover 10 years ago

i only argue because imo it kills the point of the protective role and lets mafia steal a clear away from town if town had done 'well' enough to keep/obtain a clear

roadmanover 10 years ago

cashmere

Anthony
When did it change to this? IIRC it used to be if the burden to kill was on the mafia, then you were forced to kill outside of the clear unless they were in autolose, because they had the penalty of trying to nk over and over.
If the doctor keeps saving a certain kill, out of which the mafia can't kill due to the result of an autoloss scenario, then the burden lies on the doctor not mafia.

To be honest though, it's more like exploitation of a situation Vs win conditions for 1 night action.

Devanteover 10 years agoedited

it is nearly impossible for mafia to collectively gamethrow, just saying.

forcing the mafia to do anything outside of voting for someone on a meteor night is stupid.

deleteddeletedover 10 years ago

Anthony

When did it change to this? IIRC it used to be if the burden to kill was on the mafia, then you were forced to kill outside of the clear unless they were in autolose, because they had the penalty of trying to nk over and over.

If the doctor keeps saving a certain kill, out of which the mafia can't kill due to the result of an autoloss scenario, then the burden lies on the doctor not mafia.

roadmanover 10 years ago

Anthony

When did it change to this? IIRC it used to be if the burden to kill was on the mafia, then you were forced to kill outside of the clear unless they were in autolose, because they had the penalty of trying to nk over and over.

I can understand both sides of the argument, but like, at this point it's best not to argue about it and just accept what the current admin believes is correct.

Meteor thread!!!!