Thing is mafia can NK any time and stalker keeps receiving reports(if the setup does not include cop or any investigative role from town side.) This forces town to lynch to avoid stalker catching the PR or the important role they want alive.
So if it's a 5 way and then you lynch stalker will exploit NK and stalk til he finds the right pr.
Seen this exploited in Voltron Doesn't Like It where mafia NK's the very beginning and keeps stalking til they find the bulletproof. In that case they hit bulletproof so town loses a PR.
Can be exploited with setups that include bomb, oracle or any town PR like that where stalker can NK safe from hitting those and keep stalking so he knows what to avoid.
Can easily be exploited in Sweet Dreams and maybe other setups like lolnoobtraitormafialose or Jingle All The Way.
The point is, while I didn't say TOO many people exploiting the role like this, what if they do? This could break the balance of said setups and it's not hard to do it. It's beneficial so why not?
Can you fix this exploit by maybe adding a feature to the stalker that makes his ability useless if mafia decides to no kill that night?
deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
+ bp would have to claim not hit for the d1 lynch for the time being (just if it became the meta and bp didn't have to, there'd be the tiniest bit of a gamble in it)
deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
and actually in fairness there are some little things around the stalker getting lynched d1 that might blow the nk strat sky-high, but i'm not going to bother adding them up, i doubt they make for that much of a difference given the chances
deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
how about i send u an epicmafia friend request instead?
deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
dude i did!! i just already went through this with sonse and i have my first day of college in the morning =(
doesn't matter dude. the nk gives town their two clears untouched for the whole game and still takes a better winchance from it. and actually bp having to out that he wasn't hit actually seals the deal, because that might have been the crux when it came down to getting the last blue lynched and hitting in prs lol
well really you wouldnt know if it would be an nk unless bp outs that he wasnt hit. which then stalker would be useless since mafia wont be killing orc anytime soon and theyll be forced to kill.
ok i think its not viable then. or if youd want just nk, get bp to out, then hit them. i dont see lynching with an unhit bp being a good strat unless your clears are good.
deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
i have revolutionised voltron doesn't like it. maybe he might like it now, we should call it 'we don't know if voltron doesn't like it anymore'
deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
who are u? sonrio i'm thinking is the obvious answer, but just to be sure
deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
anyone know how u calculate overall odds of like situational things like mafia can get lynched on the ml or not, game continues regardless but with new odds, working those odds into a whole figure?
i guess thats true. if town misses the first mislynch after an nk it puts them in 6 way mylo.
aaaa it seems viable but i still think it would be a bad idea for having two clears all game
deleteddeletedalmost 11 years ago
i deleted it because meteor is on maf n1 elfire. it's the stalker that's really the issue, not the nk, otherwise town could happily just force mafia to kill
