Inquiry

deleteddeletedover 11 years ago

Should guise tests be considered OGI?

Because I was recently in a guiser game, one that will be comped starting tomorrow and the town found guiser because of guiser tests, and the person the guiser guised joined another game and appeared in the lobby, and the guiser visited the profile of the person he is guising.

Is any of this outside game influence? It seems like it should be, as it breaks the setup.

Poll
Are guiser tests like those listed above OGI?
Yes66%2
No33%1
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
I'd feel much happier with lyncher in comp.
Satanover 11 years ago
epicmafia journal entry #1: there are two guise setups comped...i'm afraid this is the end for me, this will be my last entry.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Result: 2 guise setups are comped.
Satanover 11 years ago
Harrold
Satan
don't comp guise setups
deleteddeletedover 11 years agoedited
or you know, don't use something like a profile to influence in-game actions.
Giga13over 11 years agoedited
Hibiki
BearGuru
a town noticed the person he was disguising was playing in another game, and he visited their profile
these aren't guise tests fwiw
This is OGI if someone uses it, bear. I assume this is what your mean by the OP, and this isn't even considered guisetesting. It's one of those unwritten greyish areas that is never regarded because you can never tell if the person saw that the guy who they guised left the game or not, but if caught then it's instant OGI

An easy fix for this: Once a game with a guiser in it begins, nobody can leave it until the game ends. That would be easy for lucid to code and would solve this problem because more people likely use this to their advantage without willing to admit it
Hibikiover 11 years ago
if a setup requires n1 guise for mafia to win, town are going to win 99% of the time
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Satan
don't comp guise setups
pranay7744over 11 years ago
IF the town mentions that the person joined another game then it is ogi. If the town had used it to know that he is guised and tried to convince others without letting them know or without asking them to check that the person joined another game then there would be no evidence to prove that the person used outside influence.
Hibikiover 11 years ago
BearGuru
a town noticed the person he was disguising was playing in another game, and he visited their profile
these aren't guise tests fwiw
Simsover 11 years ago
Yeah, it's a problem with the rule, not the players, so there's no real sense in punishing the people that take advantage of it. We should just encourage setup makers to stop using the role, because it sucks
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Hibikiover 11 years ago
to answer OP: no
Endorphinsover 11 years ago
Just remove the role all together because cri evry tiem
Satanover 11 years ago
don't comp guise setups
itg321over 11 years ago
if u have friends in the mod team they probs will
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
itg321
yeah, any good town knows that's a possible mechanic and should slowly push on guiser without saying so. explicitly saying so IS OGI though
So can games be refunded due to this?
itg321over 11 years ago
yeah, any good town knows that's a possible mechanic and should slowly push on guiser without saying so. explicitly saying so IS OGI though
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
In the game I was in, the disguiser was playing really well until a town noticed the person he was disguising was playing in another game, and he visited their profile, and failed a guise test. It ruins the setup.
itg321over 11 years ago
just make sure u dont say so :^)
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
anything that only the dead player would know that is asked to the guiser should def be considered ogi
itg321over 11 years ago
as long as you dont explicitly mention it in game

like how it's ideal for one to 'foss' runners on the basis of ensuring a trophy :^)