Congratulations to the winners of Round 258!

What's the point of the discussion, that I am missing?

you're missing the point of the discussion entirely

steve pulls up his britches and cracks his knuckles preparing to tell the new meta kiddies a lesson in epicmafia history where ALIO was once considered viable and third-party is clearly NOT against competition

When will people stop complaining about setups they don't like and start focusing on enjoying the setups they do like

animegayboy69

Apostasy

I'd just like to point out that when I won silver on sex and lies, I won 13/14 games as scum, 4 of which were as guiser. One loss as scum the entire round, as opposed to 10 losses as town.

luck/random variance doesn't equate to balance

I don't think it's very hard to win as scum on sex and lies, personally. Just put your guiser at the top of the list

Apostasy

I'd just like to point out that when I won silver on sex and lies, I won 13/14 games as scum, 4 of which were as guiser. One loss as scum the entire round, as opposed to 10 losses as town.

luck/random variance doesn't equate to balance

guiser is only a bad role if you know how to guise test, unlike retti.

I'd just like to point out that when I won silver on sex and lies, I won 13/14 games as scum, 4 of which were as guiser. One loss as scum the entire round, as opposed to 10 losses as town.

say please, both of you

retti refund this https://epicmafia.com/report/126410

retti refund my game

snl is a mechanical townfarm in which guiser is already an inherently bad role and the only chance of you winning is either by night roulette or the table not being filled with metabuddies

Hibiki

https://epicmafia.com/game/3786601

i kinda need to go to bed after my hearts are done so if mods could check out this report asap it would b gr9 https://epicmafia.com/report/126482

where are the mods. what's with the report count @ last day of the round???

that was a funny game

I TRIED TO SECRETLY THROW AGAINST CONNOR IN HIS GAMES AND I ENDED UP WINNING WITH HIM SRRY GUYS

M A F W I N S B O Y S

it should probably be banned at this point its easy to fall into mechanical autowin and scum are helpless

Feels Good Man isn't blacklisted. Discordia was blacklisted because people were Doc/Cult jointing, so I just banned all setups which had a Doc + a conversion role.

if reverse is banned, ban snl otherwise unban reverse

Reverse maybe, discordia absolutely not

agreed besides you thinking reverse mafia isn't an absolute point farm since you are objectively always more likely to win than lose over a period of time

I don't think any setup that isn't an absolute point farm should be banned and with that said I think there's a strong argument to be made towards banning SNL

Not because there's any mechanical problem with it but because it's way too brutal of a game for any inexperienced player playing scum. It's just a numbers game; too many townies plus no reveal is a brutal combo for newer players or players who don't effort, to the point where many avoid it and the only games left are stacked or semi stacked towns that will play it properly and town farm

But yeah there's absolutely no justifiable reason for something like reverse mafia to be banned, much less something like a&d. Unfortunately, those setups were banned under another admin and the current admin respects a useless precedent way too much to overrule it

fair point, but do you have a trophy sweaty? (:

stop ganging up on me. come play snl please https://epicmafia.com/game/3786646

Mitch

connor&justrec sittin g in a tree . . p l u s s i n g

p l u s s I n g is one more letter than k I s s I n g.

I'm diappoint.