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mandevianalmost 12 years ago

both are important in different cases.

in bsh the maf cant bus into autolose so u lead a lynch

in most cases i ask for self votes because there are trolls in town who split votes and help mafia win.

some times the maf will not self vote and insist on crossing.

also i develop the self voting meta so that the mafia are afraid of stalling the day

i also develop the self voting meta so that when others are in game with me they ask me to self vote

if everybody self votes, and there is hammer with the clear, then i can blitz. if i change the vote at the same time the clear votes me, i can get someone else lynched.

people who say that the one is better than other are noobs and dont understand the rationale behind all aspects of the game.

some times self voting is very important because u dont want the stalker to out his stalk, or u dont want the maf to get reactions from town by claiming things or to instruct their partners.

getting reactions by leading lynch is very important in many cases.

both ways are important.

also crosses are good in some cases instead of self voting.

self voting instills fear in the mafia when the clear is good. one can read that fear and get reads.

when maf self votes they will stop talking out of fear if they are not experienced to this meta

yourdadalmost 12 years ago

shiv puts an account on percetage hof after 500,000 points and goes fullblown peta his idol

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago

that sounded poetic but made no sense.

yourdadalmost 12 years ago

Shivv

yourdad
Steven
Also it's the opposite, it is only when you're not confident that leading is better, because it allows you to evaluate extra reactions, not only from the player but the other players too (which is why leading is better usually)
also somebody's gotta die anyway dudes. it's a loaded vs. an unloaded gun, with someone to die anyway, + what Steven said. someone give evidence of town doing better when the prs lead rather than hammer

shiv is a dumbass and his post is laughable
you're an unironic self-parody and also probably ling or sirius.

says you lmfao

yourdadalmost 12 years ago

if ur good u can get the clear to hammer someone else as a proxy check of u with literally 3 lines

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago

yourdad

Steven
Also it's the opposite, it is only when you're not confident that leading is better, because it allows you to evaluate extra reactions, not only from the player but the other players too (which is why leading is better usually)
also somebody's gotta die anyway dudes. it's a loaded vs. an unloaded gun, with someone to die anyway, + what Steven said. someone give evidence of town doing better when the prs lead rather than hammer

shiv is a dumbass and his post is laughable

you're an unironic self-parody and also probably ling or sirius.

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago

actually if you're good the reactions will help cement and clear any doubts you may have had.

yourdadalmost 12 years ago

Steven

Also it's the opposite, it is only when you're not confident that leading is better, because it allows you to evaluate extra reactions, not only from the player but the other players too (which is why leading is better usually)

also somebody's gotta die anyway dudes. it's a loaded vs. an unloaded gun, with someone to die anyway, + what Steven said. someone give evidence of town doing better when the prs lead rather than hammer

shiv is a dumbass and his post is laughable

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago

but if a mafia reacts well to the lead that would fuvk up your judgement whereas u woulda nailed scum in a self vote/cross

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years agoedited

the whole "self vote for clear" site meta needs to be crushed.

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago

the reads elicited from a bandwagon and voting speeds etc. trumps the possibility of the mafia playing poorly.

Stevenalmost 12 years ago

Warrens

Steven you're assuming mafia is incapable of making stalk codes.

I'm not assuming anything, mafia may have made stalk codes or not, but because you are unaware it is optimal to ask for self votes in that situation, as you gain nothing for leading on a guilty (unless you reaction test and hide the guilty to fish for partners, which is a viable alternative)

animegayboy69almost 12 years ago

Myths

Selfvoting is ensuring no mater who is voting, they won't slowroll.

what the hell is this supposed to even mean

I used the term "slowroll" to refer to when mafia has hammer/can blitz on lylo and doesn't, dragging the game out needlessly. I have no idea what this is supposed to be talking about

Stevenalmost 12 years ago

Also it's the opposite, it is only when you're not confident that leading is better, because it allows you to evaluate extra reactions, not only from the player but the other players too (which is why leading is better usually)

Warrensalmost 12 years agoedited

Steven you're assuming mafia is incapable of making stalk codes.

Stevenalmost 12 years agoedited

Shivv

self-voting is never better and it's only propagated by egocentric clears that lack confidence in their ability to lynch right and want to get the process over quickly.

You're wrong about that, self voting is sometimes better.

Let's say you had a guilty where there's no millers or anything but there is a stalker. Leading on the mafia is completely suboptimal because it allows them to out the stalk. Instead the best play there is to ask for self votes saying you have a guilty (or inno, it's all the same. Mafia won't risk outting stalk in case you're reaction testing) and hammer the scum.

Mythsalmost 12 years ago

lel - no opportunity to slowroll.

yourdadalmost 12 years ago

Betrayal

yourdad
shiv ur a dumbass dude
what's the difference between a dumbass vs a smartass please?

smartass is clever

Warrensalmost 12 years agoedited

betrayal go **** up another thread please

Betrayalalmost 12 years ago

yourdad

shiv ur a dumbass dude

what's the difference between a dumbass vs a smartass please?

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago

i'm roastin these kents.

yourdadalmost 12 years ago

shiv ur a dumbass dude

Warrensalmost 12 years ago

How is selfvoting better????

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago

self-voting is never better and it's only propagated by egocentric clears that lack confidence in their ability to lynch right and want to get the process over quickly.

Mythsalmost 12 years ago

selfvote is always better.

Selfvoting vs Leading a Lynch