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Post Unbanned Cheaters' Accounts

about 12 years

When players who were banned for cheating are let back into either of the competition-running lobbies, they should undergo a probationary period during which they lose privacy rights for all accounts, be they linked alts or clean-slate mains. The mods can set up a thread with a list of all accounts held by recently unbanned cheaters and either (a) consistently monitor users who have made the list or (b) install a simple account approval process whereby failure to inform the mods of newly registered accounts constitutes a violation of the rules.

This might be worth a go for any game-related ban, not just cheating, but that would probably involve a lot more maintenance.

about 12 years

Venus says

How many large cheating cases have you done bronto?


I helped ark do some work on the caroline/amishguy investigation a few rounds ago, but other than that I have very little experience with cheating. I don't enjoy that line of work.
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Happeh says


Peta says

For those who have forgotten / weren't around, violations used to be publicly visible on profile pages. I'm guessing privacy was the reason they were hidden but I don't recall the stigma ever being remotely problematic for anyone who hadn't racked up a bunch of violations. Users who have been banned for cheating are a different story.


i think it was never intended to be public


It was like that for a long while.
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grim says

once a cheater always a cheater when it comes to epicmafia. that's a fact


no its not
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How many large cheating cases have you done bronto?
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i just think it's bad to apply a "wait for the problem" strategy rather than "let's adequately prepare for future problems" strategy.
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Peta says

For those who have forgotten / weren't around, violations used to be publicly visible on profile pages. I'm guessing privacy was the reason they were hidden but I don't recall the stigma ever being remotely problematic for anyone who hadn't racked up a bunch of violations. Users who have been banned for cheating are a different story.


i think it was never intended to be public
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once a cheater always a cheater when it comes to epicmafia. that's a fact
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Cantankerous says

the problem is that you're assuming every cheater wants to come back to epicmafia to respect the TOS and not instead (as displayed in many cases), cheat again.


I'd like to think if you're decent to someone and show them that you think they can be a functioning member of this site that they can become that.

If not, it's not like they can't get banned again.
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the problem is that you're assuming every cheater wants to come back to epicmafia to respect the TOS and not instead (as displayed in many cases), cheat again.
about 12 years
For those who have forgotten / weren't around, violations used to be publicly visible on profile pages. I'm guessing privacy was the reason they were hidden but I don't recall the stigma ever being remotely problematic for anyone who hadn't racked up a bunch of violations. Users who have been banned for cheating are a different story.
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Cantankerous says

bronto isnt actually stupid, just naive. imo


Fair assessment. I haven't been around as long and probably am too trusting. I also just don't get riled up very easily, just a personality thing.

And Pranay, they can get harassed if they know who it is they're dealing with. If they're reformed and are legit, I don't think the world needs to know they once cheated. Considering you wanted to moderate in secret I'm surprised you can't relate to wanting to have your identity hidden.
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mandevian says

and that is the definition of harassment. and i asked you to stop it


i actually haven't addressed you since you mentioned it.
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and that is the definition of harassment. and i asked you to stop it
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Happeh says

bearissoslow, pranay didnt cheat. take my word for it :D


i don't really care if he did, he got the vio and failed to get it OT'd, so i'm gonna taunt him for it because it probably makes him mad.
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Cantankerous says

bronto isnt actually stupid, just naive. imo


yeah
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I support this decision :^)
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about 12 years
bearissoslow, pranay didnt cheat. take my word for it :D
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bronto isnt actually stupid, just naive. imo
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i am warning you cantankerous. stop it. dont do that again.
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bronto is so damn stupid. how the **** can people be harassed if people know their accounts. there should be no secret alts. it goes against the fundamentals of this game.
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mandevian says

no account should be a secret


even a former cheater agrees.
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no account should be a secret
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i don't see any reason to NOT have scarlett letters for people who have wantonly violated TOS.
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Shivv says

i'd give a big thumbs up to the prospect of public executions of epicmafia accounts.


hivv