Fool Training 3

 
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Re-revised fool training with better balance.
about 13 years
>better balance
>blu win rate: 14%
about 13 years
It doesn't make any sense. Objectively, a vigil is better than a blue. Maybe people just haven't gotten used to it yet.
about 13 years
Vigils are better than blues, but training lobby vigils are perhaps not
about 13 years
This is a TERRIBLE setup for new players. It shouldn't be in a "training" lobby because it requires advanced play from both sides (joint wins, no shooting night 1 from vig, instant lylo due to joint win). It has such a low town win rate because new players don't understand these things...
about 13 years
The current fool setup has joint wins and instant lylo, and other training setups have vig no-shooting. It's not adding anything to Training that isn't already there.
about 13 years
Then it shouldn't be ranked because it's incredibly unbalanced. Whether its due to new players or not, unbalanced setups shouldnt be ranked.
about 13 years
It already has better statistical balance than the original Fool Training, which is not only ranked, but the highest-rated setup in the lobby.
about 13 years
Still lacks something. Conrad, would you help me in making the perfect Fool Training setup? This is my attempt: http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/292706
about 13 years
why no strategies for this setup?
deletedabout 13 years
Now THIS is the real fool training.
about 13 years
worst setup ever for training for 2 reasons
1. mafia can't hide behind blues
2.anytime i played it in training vig shot and changed an autowin to a lose anytime i played it anytime.
anyway i think it is a good creature
about 13 years
Noob vigils aren't inherently a flaw of the setup. In fact, if they shoot and lose they'll learn not to again and that's the whole point of training.

Anyway, I've thought of remaking this setup with tracker instead of cop to take advantage of the fool's visits.
about 13 years
no noob learn there i had 3 loses just for one person
2 times he was vig
one time we had autowin i knew if i tell him don't shoot he will shoot so gave him someone for shoot then can you imagine what happend? he shot doc and in day said no he was obv mafia you were wrong
about 13 years
Conrad
Noob vigils aren't inherently a flaw of the setup. In fact, if they shoot and lose they'll learn not to again and that's the whole point of training. Anyway, I've thought of remaking this setup with tracker instead of cop to take advantage of the fool's visits.

That doesn't solve anything. Fool would just visit no one, like he should always do.
about 13 years
yeah visit no one, claim tracker, and say "i have nv on my cc he is fool."
about 13 years
fool will claim tracker anyway np who to visit
deletedalmost 13 years
>tracker
almost 13 years
here is training let noobs have fun shoot n1 you have 44% chance to shoot a mafia/fool
so let you make your chance :)
almost 13 years
This setup is good, as long as fool isn't townsided. Lost many games because fool is townsided when it should have been autowin for maf/fool.
almost 13 years
v "This setup is good". You were wrong right there.
almost 13 years
the setup itself is terrible, but it does a really good job at teaching people how the fool works, which is the goal of the setup in the first place
almost 13 years
almost 13 years
i hate this setup in ranked/. idiotic mafia turn autowin d2s into autolose.... &%$$ing idiots.
deletedover 12 years
This setup is fool trololo gold mine.
over 12 years
This setup is best, i love it, its not like in classic mafia, where the maf and the prs do the stuff alone and the blues stand around and listen and vote with one of them, you could be whispered as cops inno or docs saved and get a trustworthy guy to claim to etc. i hate being blue at classic mafia, but its okay at this setup.